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Sorrow

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Oct 8, 2009
 
Matts MOM wrote:
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Just so your aware us Parents have already been handed our life sentence without bail without paroll and without a chance to fix any mistakes we might of made. If you think for one minute we wouldn't take our childs place in a heartbeat, think again. We were all awaken in the early morning hours to be told our child died in a car accident, do you have any clue what the defening sound of those words do to a mother? We will for the rest of our lives wonder where we went wrong and feel responsible. Every morning we wake up is another day or our life sentence we have been given but yet we didn't break any laws.Unlike the driver that drove my son to his death despite his plea for her to pull over and let him out. She broke many laws that night and has not paid for any of them or taken any responsibility for any of her bad decisions and from what i hear she continues to make similar ones. So you let me know what law it is I broke and what more punishment than having to live with my sons death day after day that your looking for and well talk. And please don't ignor me now im really intrested in you response!
I am so sorry for your loss. You were not at fault - there was nothing you could have done. I hope you are getting better each day and taking care of yourself. Matt would have wanted you to do that with all his heart and soul.
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Oct 8, 2009
 

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I totally agree ten fold Jaa, My son has been in college 8 weeks , He just Admitted to me that a girl that I did not approve of him dating found a bus and train route for him to leave college and get to her without me knowing he is 18. He admitted he took that bus and train, Her parents knew how I felt as I am more strict , Well they even let him spend the night . I was in tears, Here I am trying to get my son a education , and here these Parents (Pals) have a open door with no rules, They make it hard on other parents. Well after seeing her new tatoos and a piercing he is no longer seeing her, I told him what if something happened you would not feel you could call me because you lied, or worse yet what if I was called to a hospital and you were gone and never got to explain to me as I stand in tears. Is that fair to me, He was watery eyed and said mom I am so sorry. I say to parents be just that parents, A good parent does sometimes scream and yell , Because they care, and you do not give up on your kids ever, Like I told him even when you are wrong I will stand by you and we will do the right thing . I will face what ever consiquences there might be, This is why you need to think before doing things , I can no longer wear kneepads to cushion you as you are to big for me to carry at 200 pounds and 6'2. You must make better choices and trust when I tell you I see a problem with a person, It may seem great when a house has no rules, However these people are usally not inteligent enough , to help they usally say We did not do nothing . I aI not proud to admit what my son did here as I and you can only imagine the rest of what happened. It is also a success that he has learned a lesson before it is to late or something bigger gone wrong . SO YES BE A PARENT NOT A PAL!!!! AMEN
Yes my 3 sons and 1 daughter called me names behind my back and slam doors and throw things when I said "no" -- but I don't care. Rules are rules. If it means I have to put what I want to do on the back burner to help guide them safely through this crazy world, then that's what I do, knowing that someday they will be responsible adults who will learn to appreciate everything I've done and sacrificed for them. We had deal that if they got into a jam, all they had to do is call me with our secret phrase, text me the address, and I'm there to get them, no questions asked. So far, they've done this 3 times - and drinking by the driver was involved each time. That's one tip parents can use.
Here's another: if they are going to a friend's house, I ask for the landline home phone number, and CALL to check on what's going on and whether a parent will be around. I do not let them sleep over anywhere, and the latest curfew in my house is midnight.
Other parents need to know that I am the type of parent who will sue your ass if you knowingly enable underage drinking or allow use of drugs while one of my teens is on your property.
So farewell to the long crazy nights relaxing with my partner, farewell to having a few cocktails here and there (because I may get a call to pick up my teens), farewell to being a "nice" or "cool" parent.
I am just a vigilant and fair parent. Happy to report that 2 of my "teens" are now in medical school and law school. So hang in there and stick to your guns, parents.
fed up too

Lombard, IL

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#83
Oct 8, 2009
 
parents have it much easier now then 30 years ago.... i think we as parents have become softer.... we must stick to our guns to protect them....

p.s. i still want the bitch to fry
jennifer

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parents have it much easier now then 30 years ago.... i think we as parents have become softer.... we must stick to our guns to protect them....
p.s. i still want the bitch to fry
wow, your so sensitive.
On one hand you want to go hunting and killing mexicans because they are here illegally, then you are saying "prayers" for those poor victims of that accident.
It's a good thing those victims weren't of mexican descent or they'd get no prayers from you.

you find out what color a victim is so you can decide wether to pray for them?

I blame the parents for ignoring their children, i blame the children for being drunk, and i blame the driver for trying to do a favor.
I don't hope she "fries" but i do hope parents will teach their kids not to do what she did.

it's obvious she should fry because shes mexican not because she made a mistake.

more obvious racism.
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Oct 8, 2009
 
Matts MOM wrote:
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Just so your aware us Parents have already been handed our life sentence without bail without paroll and without a chance to fix any mistakes we might of made. If you think for one minute we wouldn't take our childs place in a heartbeat, think again. We were all awaken in the early morning hours to be told our child died in a car accident, do you have any clue what the defening sound of those words do to a mother? We will for the rest of our lives wonder where we went wrong and feel responsible. Every morning we wake up is another day or our life sentence we have been given but yet we didn't break any laws.Unlike the driver that drove my son to his death despite his plea for her to pull over and let him out. She broke many laws that night and has not paid for any of them or taken any responsibility for any of her bad decisions and from what i hear she continues to make similar ones. So you let me know what law it is I broke and what more punishment than having to live with my sons death day after day that your looking for and well talk. And please don't ignor me now im really intrested in you response!
He could have reached over and put the car in park or taken the keys out of the ignition.
But no, he was an innocent little backseat passenger, just going along for the ride and the driver with her devilish grin was just looking for trouble,she made up her mind she was gonna kill some innocent white kids to top off her day.
Poor little victim, i bet all the parents are thinking the same thing "all her fault" and my poor innocent little child just on his way to to help some little old lady cross the street.
the driver could have died but she didn't and thats what pisses everyone off.
i doubt that girl is drinking but even if she is so what!
it won't bring back your kid if she stops,she could fry but that won't bring back your kid.
let it go and move on before you destroy ALL the good memories you have of your son.
You shouldn't be on here. do you have some sick desire to relive the past and the whole entire event?
let us comment on it, it don't matter to me who died one way or another.
Sstra

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#86
Oct 9, 2009
 
I do understand what you are trying to say in a harsh way. I think compassion goes alot further thou. I do think that with blogs like yours it is better that she not be on here. What one puts out in life one gets back . everyone grieves in their own way Gruff. Some do prolong their agony , Because they have to go thru denial anger , acceptance . regardless . It may not matter to others who died one way or another , Just be Thankful it is nobody you know . As nobody is invinsible to being human and making mistakes. Whatwill be will be.
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#87
Oct 9, 2009
 
Gruff and Jennifer,

I have a word for you to look up it is called "Compassion". I tell you this because you obviously have no clue what it means.

“I don't know my own strength!”

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#88
Oct 9, 2009
 
Gnuff - Do you think that maybe, just maybe these parents are outraged thinking Sandra is still out drinking and could possibly get behind the wheel and kill someone else?? I have no proof one way or the other about what she is doing but if she is out drinking again, leaving her young children to be tended by someone else, and getting behind the wheel (even if she hasa license still)- then either she doesn't care or she is in serious need of help herself.

You must not have followed this story because Matt's mom absolutely didn't come out and say her son was Mr. Innocent. She gave herself lumps in the newspapers, on TV, etc - she has expressed that she also feels guilty for the mistake he made that night. She did have talks with him about calling her in that situationa. She didn't give him permission to go out drinking and staying out late. She knows that nothing can bring her son back. She just wants to help make sure that other families don't have to go through what she is going through. She is in pure Hell and having a hard time moving forward towards acceptance. You never actually recover from losing a child - some people just learn to cope. You obviously have no idea or you wouldn't be so cruel in your response to her. Her son died - how dare you tell her how to act. How would you act? How would I act?? We have no flipping idea unless it happens to us so don't judge her. I pray we never discover what we would do.

Regarding Sandra - there is a law against what Sandra did and the result of her actions can result in her being convicted of Aggravated DUI which could result in a very long jail sentence. She may get a plea deal and get off easy.

Regarding the kids - there are laws against what they were doing. All would be punishable only by local ordinances that would result in a small fines or a few hours of community service. Apparently someone determined they already got a more harsh punishment than they would be allowed to give.

Regarding the parents - they broke no laws. They suffer every single day though.

Regarding the suppliers of alcohol - they broke laws but the police appear unable to determine exactly who was responsible so no one will ever be charged for it.

RIP Matt
fed up too

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Oct 9, 2009
 
great post..... well written
never4get2-11-07

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Nov 7, 2009
 
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He could have reached over and put the car in park or taken the keys out of the ignition.
But no, he was an innocent little backseat passenger, just going along for the ride and the driver with her devilish grin was just looking for trouble,she made up her mind she was gonna kill some innocent white kids to top off her day.
Poor little victim, i bet all the parents are thinking the same thing "all her fault" and my poor innocent little child just on his way to to help some little old lady cross the street.
the driver could have died but she didn't and thats what pisses everyone off.
i doubt that girl is drinking but even if she is so what!
it won't bring back your kid if she stops,she could fry but that won't bring back your kid.
let it go and move on before you destroy ALL the good memories you have of your son.
You shouldn't be on here. do you have some sick desire to relive the past and the whole entire event?
let us comment on it, it don't matter to me who died one way or another.
your a sorry a**hole who is probably friends with the dumb a** that KILLED those kids...she KILLED them..why don't you go corn yourself and maybe you shouldn't be on here...
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#91
Nov 9, 2009
 
I remember hearing that one of the "white" kids aunt or uncle was supplying alchohol to these kids. Was that ever checked into? Probably not. I'm sure they want to blame it all on the homeowners of the house where the party was even though they were drunk or high before they even got to the party. They got kicked out of the theatre and McDonalds because they were drunk and being obnoxious.
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#92
Nov 9, 2009
 
It does not matter if the white,brown or black parents gave them the beer they should be responsible for it. Alot of the time parents have no idea whats going on. This is coming from someone that had a lot of partys in Highschool. Kids have to take responsibilty for themselves. But I do not know why there was someone alot older then the kids at the party. The driver should be put and jail and not get out. But we need the kids to start taking responsibility for the actions they take.
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Nov 10, 2009
 
Providence wrote:
It does not matter if the white,brown or black parents gave them the beer they should be responsible for it. Alot of the time parents have no idea whats going on. This is coming from someone that had a lot of partys in Highschool. Kids have to take responsibilty for themselves. But I do not know why there was someone alot older then the kids at the party. The driver should be put and jail and not get out. But we need the kids to start taking responsibility for the actions they take.
You're asking why Sandra was at the party because she was a lot older than those kids? It was her family's house. Those kids are the ones who had absolutely no business being there. They were just looking for another place to party.
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Nov 10, 2009
 
I still say fry the bitch and her little dog toto too
never4get2-11-07

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Nov 11, 2009
 
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You're asking why Sandra was at the party because she was a lot older than those kids? It was her family's house. Those kids are the ones who had absolutely no business being there. They were just looking for another place to party.
YEAH but Sandra Is (well maybe she is) an adult. at an adult party instead of parting with the kids she should of told them to leave..but no one told the kids to leave they got drunk with them... we should pause for a minute and think about the 5 families that lost someone they love all because of Miss Party Girl Sandra... If you are drunk you don't offer any one a ride you tell them to get another one..not pile them all in and crash and kill them....
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