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Dismissal Sought In Murder Case Of Pa. Boy, 11

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“Oderint dum Metuant”

Since: Mar 09

Closer them some might think!

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#41
Sep 24, 2009
 
Good evening 2 all! I would like to know what does it take to get the attention of The New Castle Police Dept?????????? Long story but they asked me to call if I had anymore info about an incident. I called 3 different times and nobody called back. I know! I know! I'm not surprised at all.

“Sub sinks at the Point. ”

Since: Sep 08

Pittsburgh DUH!!

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#42
Sep 24, 2009
 
ah. just let the kid out of jail. he'll fit right back into the general populous with all the goofs, panty puller, diaper snippers, pedo van drivers and murders in New Castle. yeap i said it again.. copy paste Bioch..
Mia

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#43
Sep 25, 2009
 
and yourself as well!!!
justice 4 all

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Oct 2, 2009
 

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Murder is murder no matter what age you are. He knew what he was doing. If he killed the whole family would it have changed anyones attitude ?
Good for you. I have three children and at age 11 all of them knew wrong from right. To take another's life, at even the young age of 11 - is no excuse. Just like everything else in the penal system, he'll probably be out and killing again.
justice 4 all

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Good for you. I have three children and at age 11 all of them knew wrong from right. To take another's life, at even the young age of 11 - is no excuse. Just like everything else in the penal system, he'll probably be out and killing again.
life term

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put him in for life. he is an evil little prick and will never be of any use to society. at least behind bars he cannot kill again.
Jordan should be free

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Ignorant people. What you see is not what you get all the time. My wish to all of you: That your perfect children grow up and have multiple sex partners and multiple children with them. That they may lie to their lovers and collect child support from men who are not the biological fathers. That they may have children and give them bombs, and knives, and place them in a changed environment with siblings that call their father, daddy. That they may be forced to live with a strange woman who's belly is growing with a alien they are afraid to meet. Finally, that they may get some great guns as gifts, to try to ease their sorrow of being tossed in a whirlwind with no real warning. And that their guns scream out to them, "I CAN SOLVE ALL YOUR PROBLEMS", when no adult around cares to F___ en listen! It only takes a fraction of a section to act on impulse. A child this age acts on impulse. This boy needs an alternative program and he needs to be home with his dad and mom needs to work back in. Go suck an egg, a__holes.

“Oderint dum Metuant”

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#48
Oct 3, 2009
 
Well, I can see in this in world alot of hostile feeling's about this story. Send the boy home and put him in a program. Well "Jordan should be free" That's the kinda attitude we don't need working for the justice program. He had a bad day so on impulse he shoots somebody. Ok! Right! You have a right to your opinion thankfully we don't have to agree!!!!!!!!!!
To the B

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Oct 3, 2009
 

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What kind of justice would you have? Should we keep blaming our inept children when we as adults provide them with weapons? I am not talking about the child's father because this would also include the victim. I am talking about society, and our gun laws. Should we torture children who have menial lifespans and don't know enough to ask for help when they do not understand life? Should we build more jails to house children and prevent them from growing spiritually, as well as academically? Should we keep making the tax payers pay for court hearings, and pretrial hearings, so we can watch our children shackled for crimes they never would have committed if adults would have helped them or if they knew the real outcome of their actions? Should we be silent and go with the flow when we know in our hearts, children do not have the knowledge, nor the mental capacity at this age to really mean what they do? Should we just keep lying to ourselves and act like a child should really get the "eye for an eye"? It is evil to want a child to suffer for an act they may have committed by accident, by impulse, or by desperation. It is evil to keep punishing a child, through court hearings, through shackling, through families that cannot get enough out of the media, by prolonging this child's pain. Imagine at your age driving down the road and accidentally killing someone in a car accident. Imagine the hurt and loss you would feel as an adult once you realized what you did. Then imagine being placed in a jail, separated from your family, and then being dragged to another jail, and then going back and forth to hearings, in shackles, while the victims' family snares at you, and wishes you life in prison for the rest of your life. And then imagine sitting in a court room in shackles to hear what a bad person you are, when your heart hurts. Try if you may imagining this happening at the age of 11 years old.
I am not talking about a slap on the hand. I am talking about shock probation and an alternative program to help this child, and any child. Oh, how you and I differ in thought. I think this kind of attitude is just what our justice system needs. Yes, thankfully, we don't have to agree. This child should be free.

“Oderint dum Metuant”

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#50
Oct 6, 2009
 
Yes our opinions may differ but I will give respect to you for your opinion. I feel maybe I'm to close with the family. And maybe just maybe I have alot of anger inside. But the child knew what would happen if he shot that gun. He had been to turkey shoots and I would say had a knowledge of weapons and their consquences if fired. Did he do it by accident (No) impulse (Maybe) Desperation (Maybe). But the world we are in, the eye for an eye has always been. I am human and I do feel for the child. For what-ever reason and if he did do the crime he mentally has to wake every morning with that thought in his mind. No matter what the outcome is everybody has lost.

Now if want to talk about society in general being at fault. This is where we might agree. Get back to me!
To the B

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I do not know either family and I feel deeply for them both. I believe that the deceased are in a better place. That God pulled their spirits from their shells (the human body) and brought them into a beautiful world we think we can imagine but we do not even come close because heaven is such a completely perfect place, filled with complete love and peace and understanding, that we only experience this minutely on earth. Yes, we the living, have to suffer with the loss, the missing, the birthdays, the holidays, the could have been, the should have been, and yes, the anger but this will pass. There is a truth we have to face and that is that we cannot bring back the deceased. There also is the reality we have to face and that is, we too will pass from this earth one day.
I am on a different page than you. I believe in helping the living, especially a child. You may feel this could not happen by accident but I disagree. This is why I bring up impulse. Impulse and accidents are closely related, especially when you have a child this young. To act on impulse is in a way stating that a child this age deals with problems "as they happen without being ready or prepared." Often the aftermath of acting on impulse leads to regret. An accident on the other hand, is the "unusual and unintended external action which occurs in a particular time and place, without apparent or deliberate cause but with marked effects,". Again this can lead to regret. We know a child's brain is not fully developed at this age and we know that this fact proves that children often act on impulse at this age. So, lets infer that the child was having trouble adjusting.(IF HE IS GUILTY) It is wrong scientifically and I'll say even morally, to assume a child did this on purpose knowing that impulse and accident are very closely related, when you have a child this young involved. To be more clear, a child this age does not have the life experience (scientifically as well as morally) to stop the impulse, and therefore we can fairly assume that the intentions, are not truly purposeful, they are accidental. For example, I assure you that you and I, we know the outcome, that is why we as adults refrain from committing crimes, though sometimes we want to. You cannot really compare a turkey shoot to what happened here. Your brain at this age is seeking temporary resources to solve the complicated feelings they have inside, that they do not understand how to relate to adults out of fear or rejection. Children act and then they think at this age. Adults do the opposite.
The world we live in does not give everyone the eye for the eye. Some people get the death sentence, some do not, for the same crime. Research shows that there is a majority of African males in prison than white males for the same crimes. The eye for the eye was a parable written to make a point. The point was in so many words, "you get what you give". I have a hard time believing that Jesus meant this for children who are not fully developed spiritually, physically, or mentally.
The justice system, try as they might, is still very troublesome. Our jails are over-crowded mental and drug institutions that hold no solution to the problems. Society gives children who are abused back to their biological parents, over and over again. Society has gun laws that make guns so easily accessible that our children are understandable temped.
Does a child have to wake up everyday feeling sorry for something he cannot go back and change? Would it make your life any different if he did?
This little boy has a life ahead of him and he can live a good life and still live with his actions.(IF HE IS GUILTY)We all have our cross. Healing comes from forgiving, from compassion, and from love.

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#52
Oct 8, 2009
 
If there is a better place, than this must be hell, what are we doing here ?
Gas chamber

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Oct 8, 2009
 

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He is a murdered, a lost cause, a piece of trash.

Quit making excuses for him, that is the problem - everything is always someone else's fault.

This kid was a hunter, he knew pulling the trigger would kill this woman. He was jealous that she was getting the attention of his father.

He MURDERED her and an unborn child while she slept.

He should be executed, or put in prison for life.

He is a monster and a murder.
Mary

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#54
Oct 8, 2009
 
Yes, you are right, we cannot make excuses, we must just go by the facts here. The fact is that the victim (God rest her soul) had two children, from two men. This baby that passed (God rest his soul) makes three men. She was all of 26 yrs old. One can assume she would know right from wrong by now. This little boy had to move from his home to a home with her and her two children in a very short time. The fact is the victim met the boy's father and got pregnant it appears within the month they met. This little boy had a good relationship with his dad and now had to adjust to a whole family with no say in it. The fact is any child would take a good woman in his heart. What happened? The fact is a good woman would make sure a little boy was comfortable with the situation beforehand, but that was out right from the get go. The fact is young people today think nothing about having multiple children with different men and they think nothing about making good choices to teach their children how to deal with life in a responsible manner. The victim was very young and likely may have put her children ahead of this little boy instead of giving this little boy the extra attention a responsible, patient, and compassionate person would do in this situation. After all, the fact is she was the adult there. The fact is the victim had children in the home and was not responsible enough to locked up guns. The fact is a good woman who puts their children first, gets up in the morning and makes sure they eat a good breakfast, have clean clothes on, and wash their faces and brush their hair, before they go off to school. And don't hand me the "she was pregnant and tired line". We've all been there.
The fact is this little boy is a child who was put in a trashy situation and has to learn life the hard way because of an irresponsible young woman who had to get knocked up to land a guy. Your the piece of trash here. Ass___.

“The Dirty "O”

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#55
Oct 8, 2009
 
A temper tantrum turned into murder because daddy provided the killing device !
Brain waves

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#56
Oct 8, 2009
 
You need to read a book because your dumb.
Mary is crazy

New Castle, PA

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#57
Oct 8, 2009
 
Are you for real? Where was the father. If this situation was so bad why did he put his son in it? There's enough blame for everyone. She had children out of wedlock and so did he. Our society encourages it with welfare, food stamps, free housing and access cards. Everything is free just make someone else pay for it.

Get off your high horse and acknowledge some blame.
WAKE UP

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#58
Oct 8, 2009
 
Crazy Mary here. You need to go back and re-read my post. I did acknowledge some blame. Bite me.
Cdr

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#59
Oct 29, 2009
 
they need 2 look at chris brown not his kid i know them both and the kid did not do it
Rachel

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#60
Nov 2, 2009
 
It's completely true. No one knows the trouble we've seen with our "wonderful" judges in Lawrence County. They are the type that just becuase they know someone will do them a favor like take a child away from a mother without proof of abuse. This kid has mental problems. I've spoken to someone who knows the family and that this kid has had problems for a while. Why his father would teach him how to use a gun is beyond me at that age, but parents make mistakes. Unfortunately this one cost big. Is he an adult...No. Try him as a juvenile...yes. And I REALLY REALLY REALLY do not appreciate that hunting comment. Not everyone is into killing animals around here thanks!
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