Teens held in Ross case likely to be charged as adults on Friday, sources say

Whatever the case, they're both going to have alot of time to think about what they did. Honestly, they won't learn a damn thing in prison. In between the walls, they'll only become worse than they already are. My only hope is they never get released. Its highly unlikely they'll impose the death penalty on two juveniles.

Hold on now cowboy, one step at a time. Must get the murder conviction before leaping to the sentencing phase and the death penalty. Build an airtight case for a murder conviction (1st or 2nd degree?) and the death penalty will soon follow. Better yet, just rendition them to Florida and Texas for swifter justice.

God bless the innocent victim and the family. I feel the other victims because of their gang involvement should pay retribution, and fully cooperate with the police. If they choose not to fully cooperate then they should also be jailed.

Well that was a no brainer.

Tom Vinson and Davion Davis...remember those names. Be sure to put a damnatio memoriae on their grave, Wilsonites.

why is it okay to charge children as adults when they commit crimes...as terrible as this one is, but they're not allowed to buy alcohol or drive with friends in the car. Someone under 18 is considered an infant in CA and has no business being tried as an adult.

According to state law, no one under the age of 18 can be sentenced to death even if they are tried as adults.
That is why the maximum they could face, if charged with first degree murder with special circumstance, is LWOP.

Poly Grad wrote:

why is it okay to charge children as adults when they commit crimes...as terrible as this one is, but they're not allowed to buy alcohol or drive with friends in the car. Someone under 18 is considered an infant in CA and has no business being tried as an adult.

You might want to change your screen name. I am sure Poly will not appreciate the association to such ill thought out logic. An "infant"? Come on. Your analogies are flawed in the most fundamental sense as it relates to WHY the laws are enacted the way they are.

And for what it is worth under certain circumstances, minors can buy alcolhol and drive with friends in the car. By the same token, under certain circumstances, like the ones present here, they can be tried as adults.

I believe it is time for a law which these "gang members" are subject to the same laws as terrorists because that is what they are. We can't go anywhere, have to know the area we are in should we want to go enjoy ourselves, or travel completely out of this area. It's not acceptable in the United States of America to live like this.

Try them as adults that are terrorists and punish them just as you would an enemy, because that is what they are.

That her parents survived the horrors of the Killing Fields to come to a country they thought they would be free and safe in, to lose their daughter, is unacceptable and criminal. Our mayor and city need to do something.

I just read on LBReport that there were shootings last night in North Long Beach, and yesterday afternoon in Central Long Beach. When is this gang war going to end?

Call in the FBI and round them ALL up. Send them to prison for life. The only other alternative is to let them all have the Rose Bowl for an afternoon and shoot each other until the last person is left alive. I'm almost serious.

They think they are "men" when they do these things,(use a gun, fight, etc;), thus: wanna act like a man, ya get treated and tried like a man.

I'm sure you'd be okay w/ them being tried as adults if Melody was your child that was killed.

Poly Grad wrote:

why is it okay to charge children as adults when they commit crimes...as terrible as this one is, but they're not allowed to buy alcohol or drive with friends in the car. Someone under 18 is considered an infant in CA and has no business being tried as an adult.

Poly Grad wrote:

why is it okay to charge children as adults when they commit crimes...as terrible as this one is, but they're not allowed to buy alcohol or drive with friends in the car. Someone under 18 is considered an infant in CA and has no business being tried as an adult.

Would you think the same if Lil Ray Ray and Tyrone killed your innocent brother, sister, niece, nephew while minding their own?

I don't get how some of you people still seriously believe a death penalty is some sort of punishment. If anything its a release FROM punishment. I remind you that we will all die one day. When they are dead, they are in oblivion, they don't even know that they are dead, or that they were once alive, or that they killed someone, or ANYTHING, they are DEAD, GONE. However, a lifetime in a little cell, with no hope of release with no hope for a future, with no hope of ever seeing the outside of your cell. With ALL the time in the world but nothing to do. Have you ever been "Bored to Death"? Now imagine that times a million for the duration of your entire life. Nothing to do but regret their poor decisions and knowing that tomorrow will be EXACTLY like today, and the next day and the next day, until they are old and die. A lifetime is a Looooooooong time. Perhaps a better term for "Life without parole" is "Death by Prison". Remember, a lot of war criminals of WW2 and other scumbags committed suicide before they were caught to AVOID punishment. Thats why, the death penalty is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.

TManzer wrote:

According to state law, no one under the age of 18 can be sentenced to death even if they are tried as adults.
That is why the maximum they could face, if charged with first degree murder with special circumstance, is LWOP.

Thanks for the info. That's why I am not a criminal law expert. That still s%*#s!

Mathias D wrote:

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You might want to change your screen name. I am sure Poly will not appreciate the association to such ill thought out logic. An "infant"? Come on. Your analogies are flawed in the most fundamental sense as it relates to WHY the laws are enacted the way they are.
And for what it is worth under certain circumstances, minors can buy alcolhol and drive with friends in the car. By the same token, under certain circumstances, like the ones present here, they can be tried as adults.

I'll agree with you on this one
on a side note you misspelled alcohol

Mathias D wrote:

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I'll agree with you on this one
on a side note you misspelled alcohol

Mathias D, me gives you a thumbs up on this one. It might have worked in the 60's that you were a high school grad (and ooooh a Poly grad) and obtained a job more than the minimum wage of $1.65 per hour when I got out of h.s. in 1970. However, today all a high school degree merits is a spot in line for a job at Wal-Mart or McDonalds.

Dave in Alamitos Beach wrote:

I just read on LBReport that there were shootings last night in North Long Beach, and yesterday afternoon in Central Long Beach. When is this gang war going to end?
Call in the FBI and round them ALL up. Send them to prison for life. The only other alternative is to let them all have the Rose Bowl for an afternoon and shoot each other until the last person is left alive. I'm almost serious.

Let them duke it out at the LA Coliseum until the last banger is gone. Rose Bowl is too nice.

I knew these two dudes when I went to Marshall Middle School.....
I am in shock, because they looked liked they wouldn't harm anyone in that manner. Im not saying they are innocent, it just shocks me to know that someone I knew and had good and fun times with murdered an innocent girl, and it makes me sick.

Did they recover the gun that did the killing?
Wouldnt it be interesting if the weapon was owned by one of the in custody BOYS parents? Then the parents can be charged also for not keeping it locked up.

These boys better hope they get the needle. A life of cornholing without the possibility of parole is prove how much of a hard ass they really are.

LBres wrote:

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Mathias D, me gives you a thumbs up on this one. It might have worked in the 60's that you were a high school grad (and ooooh a Poly grad) and obtained a job more than the minimum wage of $1.65 per hour when I got out of h.s. in 1970. However, today all a high school degree merits is a spot in line for a job at Wal-Mart or McDonalds.

I don't know what you are trying to say about someone who made a comment about a minor being tried as an adult. What does Poly or Wilson, or any school have to do with that comment? Are you still trying to hate on Poly? A former student from Wilson and Lakewood are accussed of murder, and you still try to say something sarcastic about Poly. I know it is probably aggravating you that the youngmen weren't Poly students. You are a sick person to have so much animosty toward one public school that has achieved more accolades scholastically and athletically than anyother school in Long Beach, and probably California. Are you upset like some other people I know who wished they could have graduated from Poly, but their parents made them go to...? I did not want to go there, but you started it. It is not about any school now, it is about getting justice for the victim.

RIP Melody

RIP Melody