Fort Hood Shooter Could Face Death Penalty

Topazia wrote:

We can hope.

Hoping is what the US government and the American people did for almost 40 years after the Dawson's Field hijackings, while all along the Israelis had secure and defensible airline cockpit doors which actually prevented hijackings. Therefore, considering 9/11 among other things, I'd say that HOPE is a little over rated.

The Mutineers that cause the shooting are already dead and what's being set up now is like a Hitler show-trial.

American Dood wrote:

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Don't say our you filthy pig. You are not an American you are a terrorist supporter. Go move to a muslim country if you love terror, islam and shiria law so much

Captain O may very well be a Muslim That's why he is a terrorist supporter.
13 good people are dead and he don't seem to cair at all about it.
I wonder how long he would last if he talk his un American crap in public??

This is one thing that damm well would have pervented it.

One thing along with others, We can close our borders. The Ft. Hood terrorist was born here that's true but is mother/father were not. The 9-11 killers were let in the US to go to school, They went to school ol right flight school you know the rest. Close the borders if they are not here these acts of terrorism can't happen. Just look at all the crime that comes through the mexican border. The time has come to stop being nice and P.C. It's time to think about what's best for America and the American people. Close the borders and close them now!!! Today would be just fine.

only if he's tried by a civilian court...

...the american military hasn't executed anyone since 1961..

....John A Bennett, 1961...

ford fairlane wrote:

only if he's tried by a civilian court...
...the american military hasn't executed anyone since 1961..
....John A Bennett, 1961...

Not to mention that fact that he's reportedly "paralyzed". We wouldn't want to execute a handicapped person. That wouldn't be PC. <sarcasm off>

ford fairlane wrote:

only if he's tried by a civilian court...
...the american military hasn't executed anyone since 1961..
....John A Bennett, 1961...

We need to update that..

Deng wrote:

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Major Hasan is what they call in United States jargon "framed." All he did was to treat the combat casualties and happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

We didn't need him treating them with bullets. He didn't treat casualties, he created them. He was a Muslim terrorist just as you are. Why don't you shut up and sit over in the corner?

How can people support him? Listen to this: CLICK BELOW...

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup

Topazia wrote:

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Not to mention that fact that he's reportedly "paralyzed". We wouldn't want to execute a handicapped person. That wouldn't be PC. <sarcasm off>

There's a first time for everything...

rickahyatt wrote:

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There's a first time for everything...

A wheelchair and a long dark stairwell should suffice ...

Captain O wrote:

So this is what our country has come to:
Punishing a mentally ill and paralyzed man with death.
I am DEEPLY ASHAMED to be an American.

punishing a mentally ill man....if he was mentally ill he wouldnt have been able to enlist in the army in the first place and he did the crime so he needs to face up to the punishment.....you dont like being an american and getting the rights you have that myself amoung many other soldiers fight and give their lives for then catch the next flight to a different country

...then I will go against my support for the death penalty and let him be denied the title 'martyr'. May his sad weak mind & useless limbs suffer the earthly loneliness & everlasting aches, so he could 'live' with the grinding thoughts & guilts he has brought to his 'brethren' of arms and his 'country'. He was simply a victim on his own weakness & predatory teachings of a primitive reactionary cause.

WHOA wrote:

...then I will go against my support for the death penalty and let him be denied the title 'martyr'. May his sad weak mind & useless limbs suffer the earthly loneliness & everlasting aches, so he could 'live' with the grinding thoughts & guilts he has brought to his 'brethren' of arms and his 'country'. He was simply a victim on his own weakness & predatory teachings of a primitive reactionary cause.

I seriously doubt he suffers any guilt.

unnamed soldier wrote:

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punishing a mentally ill man....if he was mentally ill he wouldnt have been able to enlist in the army in the first place and he did the crime so he needs to face up to the punishment.....you dont like being an american and getting the rights you have that myself amoung many other soldiers fight and give their lives for then catch the next flight to a different country

Major Hasan suffered from secondary trauma, because of all the gut-wrenching experiences his patients told him about. Nobody joins the military mentally ill but a large percentage become mentally during their service.
Have you ever heard of PTSD?

Never did I state that I don't like being an American as you claim, instead I pointed out that I'm ASHAMED to be an American when reading all those evil, hateful and outright vile comments regarding Major Hasan who after all is and remains to be one of us.

I also need to clarify that not any soldiers gave me rights, rather it's the United States Constitution which has given me all rights as a U.S. citizen.

Captain O wrote:

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... Nobody joins the military mentally ill but a large percentage become mentally during their service....

True, but the vast majority don't kill a couple dozen of their own compatriots. Frankly, I don't give a shit whether or not he's mentally ill. I'd like to see him do life for what he's done. No one's gonna advocate the death penalty for a cripple; it's just not PC. Besides, that'd make him a martyr for his Islamist buddies.

Topazia wrote:

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True, but the vast majority don't kill a couple dozen of their own compatriots...

You seem to be oblivious to the fact that homicide and violence within the military are commonplace and affect not only comrades but also friends and family members.

Here's an article depicting the horrific crimes perpetrated by our military service members:

"On New Year's Day, the New York Times welcomed the advent of 2009 by reporting that, since returning from Iraq, nine members of the Fort Carson, Colorado, Fourth Brigade Combat team had been charged with homicide. Five of the murders they were responsible for took place in 2008 when, in addition, "charges of domestic violence, rape and sexual assault" at the base rose sharply. Some of the murder victims were chosen at random; four were fellow soldiers -- all men. Three were wives or girlfriends...

To judge by past wars, a lot of returning veterans will do themselves a lot of damage drinking and drugging. Many will wind up in prison for drug use or criminal offenses that might have been minor if the offenders hadn't been carrying guns they learned to rely on in the service. And a shocking number of those veterans will bring the violence of war home to their wives and children.

That's no accident. The U.S. military is a macho club, proud of its long tradition of misogyny, and not about to give it up. One decorated veteran of the first Gulf War, who credited the army with teaching him to repress his emotions, described his basic training as "long, exhausting marches" and "sound-offs [that] revolved around killing and mutilating the enemy or violent sex with women." (The two themes easily merge.) That veteran was Timothy McVeigh, the unrepentant Oklahoma City bomber, who must have known that blowing up a government office building during business hours was sure to kill a whole lot of women.

Even in the best of times, the incidence of violence against women is much higher in the military than among civilians. After war, it's naturally worse -- as with those combat team members at Fort Carson. In 2005, one of them, Pfc. Stephen Sherwood, returned from Iraq and fatally shot his wife, then himself. In September 2008, Pvt. John Needham, who received a medical discharge after a failed suicide attempt, beat his girlfriend to death. In October 2008, Spc. Robert H. Marko raped and murdered Judilianna Lawrence, a developmentally disabled teenager he met online.

These murders of wives and girlfriends -- crimes the Bureau of Justice Statistics labels "intimate homicides" -- were hardly the first. In fact, the first veterans of George Bush's wars returned to Fort Bragg, North Carolina, from Afghanistan in 2002.

On June 11, 2002, Sgt. First Class Rigoberto Nieves fatally shot his wife Teresa and then himself in their bedroom. On June 29th, Sgt. William Wright strangled his wife Jennifer and buried her body in the woods. On July 9th, Sgt. Ramon Griffin stabbed his estranged wife Marilyn 50 times or more and set her house on fire. On July 19th, Sgt. First Class Brandon Floyd of Delta Force, the antiterrorism unit of the Special Forces, shot his wife Andrea and then killed himself. At least three of the murdered wives had been seeking separation or divorce...

The killings at Fort Bragg didn't stop there. In February 2005, Army Special Forces trainee Richard Corcoran shot and wounded his estranged wife Michele and another soldier, then killed himself. He became the tenth fatality in a lengthening list of domestic violence deaths at Fort Bragg.

In February 2008, the Times reported finding "more than 150 cases of fatal domestic violence or [fatal] child abuse in the United States involving service members and new veterans" since the Afghan War began in October 2001. And it's still going on.

For more information, click here:

http://www.countercurrents.org/jones010409.ht...

Captain O wrote:

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You seem to be oblivious to the fact that homicide and violence within the military are commonplace and affect not only comrades but also friends and family members....

I am fully aware of all those cases. Do you deny that this one man, planned and mowed down two dozen unarmed people the way terrorists do?

You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. I hope this guy gets exactly what he deserves, with none of the small mercies generally granted to "handicapped" or "mentally ill" criminals.

guns- roses wrote:

What do they mean "COULD"?
He should face the death penalty.
I will gladly be a member of his firing squad. I'll also save the government money by supplying my own rifle and ammuntiion!

no use a 12 g. shotgun 00 buckshot

Topazia wrote:

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True, but the vast majority don't kill a couple dozen of their own compatriots. Frankly, I don't give a shit whether or not he's mentally ill. I'd like to see him do life for what he's done. No one's gonna advocate the death penalty for a cripple; it's just not PC. Besides, that'd make him a martyr for his Islamist buddies.

thats the pomblem too much p.c. you think outlass and terriors give a shit about p.c. if you do then you are a dumbass.