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“Dubbie Dubbie Dubbie Dubbie”
Since: Mar 08
North East Ga
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Gainesville, GA
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Richard_ wrote: <quoted text>Actually, I did snag me some cash from an agency in an out of court settlement. Their lawyer said they weren't going to pay one thin red dime, but what he meant to say was where would you like the check mailed, because within a week they wrote a check. Evidently, sovereign immunity wasn't going to be a good legal defense for them. Ok, let's have the name of the department and the case docket number and prove this if you can. Can't can you. Anyone can make up stories with a fake name and pass it off as truth. SO my story is I sued Richard and won because I found an obscure law that makes it illegal to be an idiot on Topix and he wrote me a hefty check. Because you type it does not make it true. About as true as you getting a check for anything except the end of a meal.
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Paleeze
Jefferson, GA
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And just who did the GBI ask, the dead man????? Paleeze The GBI my arsh. Throw them in a burlap bag and the one that falls out needs an escort behind the barn for corruption. No reply needed, we know your a police person wannabe. DUB wrote: Has anyone on this thread bothered to read the GBI statement released and the statements of witnesses at the incident. It appears that this "pastor" did in fact run over an officer after the officers identified themselves.
So first, Mr. Ayers did run over an officer, second, they identified themselves as best they could. But let's imagine for a moment that Mr. Ayers had picked up this woman, a prostitute (reports confirm that fact) and was not involved in her dealings and knew nothing of them, would have no reason flee from police officers. Or better yet think, does it make more sense that a "pastor" afraid of being caught with a prostitute involved in drug dealings, made an unwise decision to avoid capture when he thought that his actions may make headlines. And as a result of his actions, intentional or not, resulted in a police officer being hurt or killed. You are the same people who would still condemn the police for the event. Never mind that your Godly man made a ungodly mistake. Forget the fact that the "pastor" is a man like the rest of us and may have just been caught in a career ending position. No let's blame the police.
Look at all the facts. and then look at it from the officer's point of view.
Drug dealing whore in a car with a man at a store, officers approach, man tries to drive away and steers toward an officer almost striking him.
If anyone of you took the fact this man worked in a church out of the equation, would you then be so quick to judge.
I forgot, these are good church going Christian people, they don't let things like facts, the truth, and God get in the way of good gossip and backstabbing.
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Nobody
Jefferson, GA
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Paleeze wrote: And just who did the GBI ask, the dead man????? Paleeze The GBI my arsh. Throw them in a burlap bag and the one that falls out needs an escort behind the barn for corruption. No reply needed, we know your a police person wannabe.
<quoted text> << I agree if the cat wont come out of the bag on its own, then force it out, and give it some consequences.
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to deaf ears
Gainesville, GA
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HE WAS WITH A PROSTITUTE!! you people are so ignorant! He was having an inappropriate relationship with her..that's why he ran!! he had a relationship with her for years!! The family and friends are in denial and won't except the truth! Just because he was a minister doesn't mean he didn't sin! Stop trying to say he was innocent just because he was a minister, I've known many ministers to have affairs .....Anyone with half a brain knows if someone says they're a cop (and yes they showed their badges) you stop...especially if your innocent...and be real you live in Toccoa stop acting like it is a haven for violent crime and that he was afraid to stop for the undercover officers! Typical backwoods Christian denial! Any Christian knows we are mere mortals and we all sin, he got caught, and his poor choice of actions ultimately led to his untimely death....
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to deaf ears
Gainesville, GA
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and also he used his car as a weapon, If you were the officer and you thought someone was trying to kill you with their car you would shoot too....you wouldn't stop and call anyone!! people be real! These guys are put in the line of danger and when necessary they must use force! If he would have been someone of lower class you would say..."good job guys, thanks for getting that scum off the streets" but because he claimed he was a "man of God"...everyone is angry at the police! They were doing their jobs. Just because you claim to be a man of God doesn't mean you're not scum...
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Wow
Gainesville, GA
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John wrote: <quoted text>
"Dub" you are such a "Dud", my comments are based on what the wife has said her husband told her before his death....and on the past "performance" of "over zealous" law enforcement officers all accross the country.....Do you want to argue on those two points? I'm sure you do, thats seems to be all you have to do to occupy your time....have a nice day defending the people you love (law enforcement folk), you know the ones who have insecure personality problems and need that power to make them who they would never be without the badge and gun....real "bad" people.....I'm impressed!!!! Really??..like a guy, dying or not is going to tell his wife he wasn't innocent and that he had been with a prostitute?? I hope you never have to call 911 for an emergency like being robbed or attacked, because if you do make sure you don't ask for the Police to help you since you hate them soooooooo much!! I would hate for them to arrest the "innocent person" that is hurting you or stealing from you!! Maybe we should just get rid of law inforcement all together and live like wild banchees since the Police are the bad guys and the criminals are the good guys according to everyone on here.....
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Wow
Gainesville, GA
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Really??..like a guy, dying or not is going to tell his wife he wasn't innocent and that he had been with a prostitute?? I hope you never have to call 911 for an emergency like being robbed or attacked, because if you do make sure you don't ask for the Police to help you since you hate them soooooooo much!! I would hate for them to arrest the "innocent person" that is hurting you or stealing from you!! Maybe we should just get rid of law enforcement all together and live like wild banchees since the Police are the bad guys and the criminals are the good guys according to everyone on here.....
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Nobody
Toccoa, GA
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to deaf ears wrote: and be real you live in Toccoa stop acting like it is a haven for violent crime and that he was afraid to stop for the undercover officers! Typical backwoods Christian denial! Well this could easily be turned around toward the multi agency task force.. like you said this is Toccoa stop acting like it is a haven for violent crimes.. In other words you're saying this is not a big Metropolitan area it is a small town with "backwoods Christians" that are in denial about the scene, and that the mainstream society which in your theory would dominate the population, isn't involved in drugs or prostitution in any way shape or form only a small percent. I'm not saying quit your day jobs about preventing crimes but learn how to do so with ethics and integrity, and proper context of situations with and only if you have all of your "ducks in a row".
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“Dubbie Dubbie Dubbie Dubbie”
Since: Mar 08
North East Ga
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Gainesville, GA
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Nobody wrote: <quoted text>
Well this could easily be turned around toward the multi agency task force.. like you said this is Toccoa stop acting like it is a haven for violent crimes.. In other words you're saying this is not a big Metropolitan area it is a small town with "backwoods Christians" that are in denial about the scene, and that the mainstream society which in your theory would dominate the population, isn't involved in drugs or prostitution in any way shape or form only a small percent. I'm not saying quit your day jobs about preventing crimes but learn how to do so with ethics and integrity, and proper context of situations with and only if you have all of your "ducks in a row". Just one question, where was the lack of integrity or ethics? Because they were not approved of by you does not make the actions unethical or lacking integrity. Just as I would never say your condemning the actions of the officers before the investigation concluded is unethical or lacks integrity even though I believe it does. I have to be happy saying it is irresponsible to conclude anything without all the facts?
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Nobody
Toccoa, GA
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DUB wrote: <quoted text> Just one question, where was the lack of integrity or ethics? Because they were not approved of by you does not make the actions unethical or lacking integrity. Just as I would never say your condemning the actions of the officers before the investigation concluded is unethical or lacks integrity even though I believe it does. I have to be happy saying it is irresponsible to conclude anything without all the facts? << Good question.. where exactly was it? Apparently no one else saw it either...then maybe it means I have already answered that query in my post that you commented on... or maybe toxic values killed the moral principles.... again? or that jaded contentment of a murky credence structure has blinded you? I fail to understand why the line of this is so thin on your point of view?.. who knows?.. Besides I don't need to wait on a overly processed print out to be become public before I can make common sense observations at face value,.. eg. If I see bullshit and a bull stepping away from it,then the thought of it being a pile of candy would never cross my mind.
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“WWJJWD?”
Since: Nov 08
Richmond Virginia
ISP:
Whitewater, WI
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DUB wrote: <quoted text>Ok, let's have the name of the department and the case docket number and prove this if you can. Can't can you. Evidently, that agency and their atty didn't have the stomach to go to court, because they paid me after the deposition...an out of court settlement. Therefore, no CASE docket number. Regardless, sovereign immunity didn't apply. The check was only for 3,500.00 or so, so it wasn't big money, but it was nice having the last word.
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Reverend Al
Centereach, NY
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This is all part of Gods plan. Right?
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Nobody
Toccoa, GA
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Reverend Al wrote: This is all part of Gods plan.
Right? I agree,.. due to the fact that God is notorious for taking bad situations and people in bad situations and turning them into something good that shows his glory, but on the flip side of that coin people need to be held accountable for every action just like anybody else would have to.
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local
Jefferson, GA
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to deaf ears wrote: HE WAS WITH A PROSTITUTE!! you people are so ignorant! He was having an inappropriate relationship with her..that's why he ran!! he had a relationship with her for years!! The family and friends are in denial and won't except the truth! Just because he was a minister doesn't mean he didn't sin! Stop trying to say he was innocent just because he was a minister, I've known many ministers to have affairs .....Anyone with half a brain knows if someone says they're a cop (and yes they showed their badges) you stop...especially if your innocent...and be real you live in Toccoa stop acting like it is a haven for violent crime and that he was afraid to stop for the undercover officers! Typical backwoods Christian denial! Any Christian knows we are mere mortals and we all sin, he got caught, and his poor choice of actions ultimately led to his untimely death.... Back wood Christians... this is not a religious issue. If we were ignorant we would not be here talking about this. DO you live here? I do, and if a group of men jumped out at me I would run...especially on that corner in town. I would run especially since I am a woman.
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local
Jefferson, GA
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Reverend Al wrote: This is all part of Gods plan.
Right? Not sure. I think God has control of things here. I also think there are bad forces at work here. Stop looking for the hand of God and look for the hand of the devil.
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Reverend Al
Centereach, NY
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local wrote: <quoted text>
Not sure. I think God has control of things here. I also think there are bad forces at work here. Stop looking for the hand of God and look for the hand of the devil. But what about Gods will? Couldn't a righteous and good God have stopped the hands of evil? After all, God is omnipotent?
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local
Jefferson, GA
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Reverend Al wrote: <quoted text>
But what about Gods will?
Couldn't a righteous and good God have stopped the hands of evil? After all, God is omnipotent? We don't learn a whole lot when we are happy. Often adversity teaches us more that happy times. Maybe we have hard times to prepare us for more things in life, maybe to reach others around us. Maybe God ALLOWS these things to happen to us for some reason we don't understand. I don't know why God does what He does. I don't have to know. I do know He is there. I have a faith that there is more to what we see that a conglomeration of chance. It is a touchstone, a guide, a hope when everything is really bad. Why did Ayers die? I am not sure. Did forces of evil beat good that day. On some level, yes. God gives us free will and a soul. Maybe both were at play that day in some way. I am not sure what He was doing while He was there, but I am sure God was there that day. Maybe it was God's will that he died. He may have things he heeds MR. Ayers to do elsewhere! Even in his last minutes alive I bet MR. Ayers still had faith in God.
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Ron
Greenville, SC
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Rev Ayers was killed becauses narcotics cops decided to execute him. If they were really targeting the female in the car; they would have
followed her when she got out of the car. Instead,
they stalked Rev Ayers, ambushed him and executed
him when he tried to flee with his life.
AND the Grand Jury said murder of an innocent
Baptist Minister is insignificent to the people
of Toccia....
Just remember...these same cops are still armed and out stalking you, your neighbors.. and they
know if they can be judged justified killing an
innocent Baptist Minister; what hope does an average citizen have?
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Reverend Al
Centereach, NY
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local wrote: <quoted text>
Even in his last minutes alive I bet MR. Ayers still had faith in God. Doesn't everybody suddenly have faith when they are about to die though?
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local
Lavonia, GA
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Reverend Al wrote: <quoted text>
Doesn't everybody suddenly have faith when they are about to die though? They do say that there are no atheists in fox holes.... But un the whole of life, we always turn to God on dark times. We learn what we need to muster up spiritually , mentally, physically in hard times. For me and mine, we turn to God. Others turn to positive things like friends, exercise, hobbies. Still others make bad choices in hard times which further compounds the bad situation. I think Rev. Ayers and all people who grow up as Christians, turn to God in good and bad. Maybe that is the key...Christians celebrate God in good and bad and atheists only when they are in foxholes.
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