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The Dude
Wallasey, UK
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Christopher Pearsoll wrote: It seems that markie is getting more shrill. Seems that way.
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Anonymous
Saint Petersburg, FL
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marksman11 wrote: <quoted text>Show me one piece of evidence that couldn't also be evidence for creation. Also, even if you won't admit it, to claim that if evolution is wrong, all of science is wrong, is just plain ignorant. Darwinists assumes evolution is true and filters it's evidence through that assumption. If I assume, and only accept that the sun revolves around the earth, I could claim that all of science confirms it. The sun rises in the east, and sets in the west. Also it's orbit around us is more oval than circular, because we have winter and summer, when it's dark here, the sun is shining in Japan......etc. Even though the sun does not revolve around the earth, if that is the only explanation I will accept, then like you guys, I can present evidence and filter it through my bias, and claim that science supports my theory, no matter how wrong it is. Come on man!!! Start thinking for yourself. Look at the origin of life happening by random haphazard, without aim or method preocesses. Look at what you observe today. There is nothing to tell you that you and an ape had a common ancester that is provable!!! NOTHING! It's all assumptions! Look at the origin of the 2 sexes! Do you really believe that evolution produced a male, and a female, with the biological organs that will allow reproduction of their species, and that they EVOLVED AT THE SAME TIME????? Come on man!!! There is no way!!!! What possibly could have happened that would cause us to be so different than apes if we have a common ancestor? We build buildings, we wire them with electricity that is produced by power plants that our mind discovered from science. We set up civilizations, with infrastructure to transport us easily. We communicate through satillets <sp?> that we placed in orbit by machines that are designed and propelled by things we have designed. We speak in multible languages, and extend the life of our food products, with refridgeration that works in warm places. We can communicate with only our hands, and we can cure many of our diseases........and that is just the tip of the iceburg, and you want to say there is only a tiny presentage difference between us and them? Come on man, think for yourself!!!! What kind of genetic mutation would cause this evolution? AND MORE, if this mutation improved our ability to reason and create so far beyond these cousins of ours, then why are we so ignorant to do some of the things we do?...(edited to fit) Sigh....you just recycle the same crap over and over. "Separate sexes can't evolve", "never observed human evolution", "science doesn't know what they are doing and only a moron like me is allowed to decide what is good science, despite my science illiteracy". Of course, you can claim that any evidence fits creation, because there is no logic required for creationism. Anything can be claimed as creationism as you just have to say "but god made it look that way". How convenient. Not of much value, but very convenient for you extremists. You also do not understand the scientific method. PERIOD. You've been corrected on that matter countless times. You are just arrogantly willfully ignorant. The fact that you tell me to think for myself is laughable. You let your Bible and what you WANT to believe is true, to dictate what you accept as true, instead of letting reality and evidence lead you to conclusions. As for the percent of Americans who accept evolution, so what? Americans are also amongst the bottom amongst any nationality when it comes to many subjects, such as geography, world history, sciences, etc. We are a very parochial society with many religionists who are unwilling and unable to think beyond what they are told to think. Luckily, this nation also has some of the best thinkers to help counteract the extremists. Also, the acceptance of evolution in this country is dramatically higher as you go higher in education level. So your claim really isn't that impressive.
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Anonymous
Saint Petersburg, FL
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marksman11 wrote: <quoted text>Show me one piece of evidence that couldn't also be evidence for creation. Also, even if you won't admit it, to claim that if evolution is wrong, all of science is wrong, is just plain ignorant. Darwinists assumes evolution is true and filters it's evidence through that assumption. If I assume, and only accept that the sun revolves around the earth, I could claim that all of science confirms it. The sun rises in the east, and sets in the west. Also it's orbit around us is more oval than circular, because we have winter and summer, when it's dark here, the sun is shining in Japan......etc. Even though the sun does not revolve around the earth, if that is the only explanation I will accept, then like you guys, I can present evidence and filter it through my bias, and claim that science supports my theory, no matter how wrong it is. Come on man!!! Start thinking for yourself. Look at the origin of life happening by random haphazard, without aim or method preocesses. Look at what you observe today. There is nothing to tell you that you and an ape had a common ancester that is provable!!! NOTHING! It's all assumptions! Look at the origin of the 2 sexes! Do you really believe that evolution produced a male, and a female, with the biological organs that will allow reproduction of their species, and that they EVOLVED AT THE SAME TIME????? Come on man!!! There is no way!!!! What possibly could have happened that would cause us to be so different than apes if we have a common ancestor? We build buildings, we wire them with electricity that is produced by power plants that our mind discovered from science. We set up civilizations, with infrastructure to transport us easily. We communicate through satillets <sp?> that we placed in orbit by machines that are designed and propelled by things we have designed. We speak in multible languages, and extend the life of our food products, with refridgeration that works in warm places. We can communicate with only our hands, and we can cure many of our diseases........and that is just the tip of the iceburg, and you want to say there is only a tiny presentage difference between us and them? Come on man, think for yourself!!!! What kind of genetic mutation would cause this evolution?...(edited to fit) Sigh....you just recycle the same crap over and over. "Separate sexes can't evolve", "never observed human evolution", "science doesn't know what they are doing and only a moron like me is allowed to decide what is good science, despite my science illiteracy". Of course, you can claim that any evidence fits creation, because there is no logic required for creationism. Anything can be claimed as creationism as you just have to say "but god made it look that way". How convenient. Not of much value, but very convenient for you extremists. You also do not understand the scientific method. PERIOD. You've been corrected on that matter countless times. You are just arrogantly willfully ignorant. The fact that you tell me to think for myself is laughable. You let your Bible and what you WANT to believe is true, to dictate what you accept as true, instead of letting reality and evidence lead you to conclusions. As for the percent of Americans who accept evolution, so what? Americans are also amongst the bottom amongst any nationality when it comes to many subjects, such as geography, world history, sciences, etc. We are a very parochial society with many religionists who are unwilling and unable to think beyond what they are told to think. Luckily, this nation also has some of the best thinkers to help counteract the extremists. Also, the acceptance of evolution in this country is dramatically higher as you go higher in education level. So your claim really isn't that impressive.
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Anonymous
Boston, MA
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Bin wrote: <quoted text> Could someone explain to me how the evidence at the molecular level supports the tenets of evolution? We see that humans are more refined with less DNA code. If we look at the universe as an assembly of atoms then why couldnt we say that humans may be the center of it? We might be more important in the grand scale of things than science has yet to disclose. Define "refined." Define "center." Define "important." Define "science."
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Anonymous
Boston, MA
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marksman11 wrote: Genesis 3 16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. What does that have to do with their teeth?
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Anonymous
Boston, MA
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marksman11 wrote: <quoted text>What I am saying is, is that according to the scientific method, human from non-human evolution is not valid science because it fails the scientific method that demands observability. THIS IS A LIE. Why do you CONTINUE to LIE? "Human from non-human evolution" is the HYPOTHESIS. The *observed* similarities between human anatomy and physiology and those of other great apes and earlier hominids are the OBSERVATIONS of NATURAL PHENOMENA. YOU yourself AGREED that they are observed. The hypothesis to explain these similarities is that humans came from a non-human ancestor, related to these other creatures that are very similar to us. Now you see why I asked you if we observe the differences. I have caught you squarely in a lie that you continue to lie about. You are being dishonest in the name of your religion. Does Jesus want you to lie as a means to defend or support or whatever it is you think you're doing for your religion?
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Anonymous
Boston, MA
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marksman11 wrote: <quoted text>Show me one piece of evidence that couldn't also be evidence for creation. Better yet: define for me ANYTHING at all that would contradict creation. If there isn't a single thing that you can even conceive of that would contradict creation, it isn't falsifiable. As such, it can never be proven right, because there is no "wrong" for anything to be compared to.
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The Dude
Wallasey, UK
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LowellGuy wrote: <quoted text> Better yet: define for me ANYTHING at all that would contradict creation. If there isn't a single thing that you can even conceive of that would contradict creation, it isn't falsifiable. As such, it can never be proven right, because there is no "wrong" for anything to be compared to. Markie doesn't do falsifiability. He thinks that because Creationism is non-falsifiable, that's why he always wins.
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LMT
Macedonia, OH
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marksman11 wrote: <quoted text> couldn't even spell sentence while trying too!!! While trying too? How about "while trying to?" To Two Too Learn the difference, fool, before you trash people for accidental typos.
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Anonymous
Albuquerque, NM
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LMT wrote: <quoted text> While trying too? How about "while trying to?" To Two Too Learn the difference, fool, before you trash people for accidental typos. Oh great! Now we are going to debate the English usage in Central America versus that used in the mountain regions of the Middle East.
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marksman11
Hendersonville, NC
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LMT wrote: <quoted text> While trying too? How about "while trying to?" To Two Too Learn the difference, fool, before you trash people for accidental typos. I've already admitted I'm a terrible speller. At least I'm not named after a monkey and claiming chimps can type sentences while mispelling it himself. I don't make fun of spelling or typing errors because I'm one of the worst, but it was his context that made his so funny. Now, I suggest that if you want another reply from me, you put a little respect in your pocket, or I'll drop your posts like I'd drop a liberal in a voting booth..
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marksman11
Hendersonville, NC
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LowellGuy wrote: <quoted text> Better yet: define for me ANYTHING at all that would contradict creation. If there isn't a single thing that you can even conceive of that would contradict creation, it isn't falsifiable. As such, it can never be proven right, because there is no "wrong" for anything to be compared to. All you have to do is show where abiogenesis has been observed. That would do it.
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