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Oct 8, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Hudson TEA Party to feature hot drinks -- and guns

Full story: The Minneapolis-St. Paul Pioneer Press

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MN Gal

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I think furniture store woman is unreasonably paranoid about guns. It's not the responsible gun owners/carriers that are going to burst into her furniture store, crabby or not, and start waving a gun in her face, or whatever her scenario might be.

America needs education on gun owners, especially the ones that are licensed to carry firearms in this country. Thugs and thieves generally do not go to the trouble of becoming licensed carriers. Here in my state, we have to pass a proficiency course and background check, and receive the county sheriff's approval if we want to carry a gun. Anyone with a criminal background will not get through. Period. Citizens carrying guns are protectors, whether furniture store woman believes it or not.

Oh, and I carry a gun because I was sexually assaulted. That will not happen to me again. Above all, I avoid situations such as the attack occurred, I do not brandish my gun when I am crabby; no one knows I have it with me.
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Legislators Push Stiffening Laws To Sell Handguns (MN)


http://wcco.com/politics/law.selling.handguns...

Is it too easy to get certain types of guns in Minnesota? Some state lawmakers think so and will be introducing a new bill this week.

The proposed law would require all buyers of pistols or assault weapons to have a permit-to-purchase or pass a locally-conducted background check.

Currently, if you want to buy a pistol or assault weapon in Minnesota from a licensed dealer, you need a permit and background check. However, that's not the case if you buy from a private seller at places like gun shows, garage sales or on the Internet.

"It's a fairly gaping loophole that we have in our current law," said State Representative Michael Paymar. "It's a fairly simple process so we're trying to weed out dangerous people who should not be possessing those kinds of weapons."

Paymar and others want to plug that loophole by requiring everyone, including private parties, to sell these types of weapons through a licensed firearms dealer.

Jim Wright owns Crocodile Productions, which organizes 20 gun shows a year around the metro. He said the great majority of sellers at the shows are federally licensed dealers, who already require permits.

He said in the shows he's involved with occasionally there's someone liquidating a personal collection. Wright said he doesn't see the point of more regulation.

"All of the criminals have the best guns on the market. And they're not buying them legally, anywhere," said Wright.

However, gun control advocates say it makes sense to expand the existing law to keep guns away from people with mental health problems and with convictions for felonies and domestic violence.

"If we can keep some of those dangerous weapons out of the hands of dangerous people we'll be successful," added Paymar.

Dealers, who didn't want to talk on camera, said there is a concern that the government is going too far.

"The only thing as far as prohibiting somebody from selling their own personal gun, it's just infringing on their rights," said Wright.

There is a provision in the bill to allow a gun owner to sell to a relative without requiring a permit. The legislation is being introduced later this week in the Minnesota House and will get a hearing in two weeks.

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I’m sure Rep. Paymar will be providing the evidence that will support the notion that some notable number of "dangerous" people are, in fact, acquiring handguns and "assault" weapons illegally under the current framework... Of course, he will... Anytime now...
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Please sign the petition for Wisconsin to repeal the onerous ban on open carry in vehicles and within 1,000 feet of schools at http://www.petitiononline.com/wi1848oc/petiti...

learn more and take action at OpenCarry.org
Melanie Hain

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I'm glad I had my gun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Tell Barbara Dahl not to worry, Conservatives tend to clean up after themselves, be respectfull, and NOT throw urine at cops when they demonstrate.
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I don't believe the furniture store lady can change the law by putting a sign in the window. She may as well put a sign that says "No Free Speech". The point being, if it's the law, then it's the law, she can't just change it for however she feels by putting a sign in the window.
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Carl Gerbschmidt wrote:
Tell Barbara Dahl not to worry, Conservatives tend to clean up after themselves, be respectfull, and NOT throw urine at cops when they demonstrate.
Right on, and I think the furniture lady should have a room in her store for handgun sales. She might do better in this economy if she does. And I doube if anybody would try to steal one of her sofas if she was "carrying". Come to think of it, she shouldn't anger gun owners with her comments because she might not sell many sofas, either.
Tyrone Shoelaces

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one lump or would you prefer a clip for your 45
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Paymore wrote:
...He said the great majority of sellers at the shows are federally licensed dealers, who already require permits.
He said in the shows he's involved with occasionally there's someone liquidating a personal collection. Wright said he doesn't see the point of more regulation.
"All of the criminals have the best guns on the market. And they're not buying them legally, anywhere," said Wright.
Unfortunately, my own experience tells me different. As a 19 year old, I went to a gun show with some friends, and one of the sellers there offered to sell me a MAC 11, no questions asked, for $500 cash - he even said he'd throw in instructions on how to convert it to full auto. The one he was trying to sell me wasn't the only one on his table. Now, maybe he was pulling my leg, knowing there was no way I had $500 cash on me, but he did say that since they were his "personal firearms", he didn't need to do any paperwork.

Also, if you look at FBI reports throughout the last decade, only about 20-30% of guns taken from criminals come back as having been stolen. So where are they coming from?
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Melanie Hain wrote:
I'm glad I had my gun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Nice post. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
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How long will it take for them to shoot each other? Hopefully, not long.
No spin zone

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Can't wait I'll be there, this is the third one this year. And no one has be shot or killed. So to the stupid store owners, who post GUNS BANNED look at all the money you will miss out on durning these hard times. Stupid! JUST Stupid!
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No spin zone wrote:
<quoted text>Like I said this is the third event in Wisc. and NO ONE HAS BEEN SHOT. Can't say that about your crap hole neighbor hood in Mpls.....Can you! Stupid tit!
The number one reason why you feel the way you do is because you, like a lot of people, misinterrept the Second Amendment, which actually says, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The concept of a universal militia originated in England which subjected men to keep and bear arms for military duty since the 12th century. Even then, King Henry III, limited the right to bear arms to certain subjects between the ages of fifteen and fifty (including non-land-owning subjects) to bear arms because England did not have a regular army and police force (which was not established until 1829). Every subject had an obligation to protect the king’s peace and assist in the suppression of riots, mostly against the king, himself.

Wisconsin, today, has a police force and a regular army, and does not subject itself to any king; hence, the Second Amendment, as it stands today, is out-dated. People, like you still support the "right to bear arms" because you like to shoot animals for sport and for the hail of it, its a great conversation piece in rural areas--prestige--, and it gives you a sense of superiority over undesirable people; people that you'd rather suspect of malicious activity, notably Hmong and Spanish people who have begun to settle in Wisconsin, instead of doing the more appropriate neighborly thing, like inviting their family over your house for dinner and a stogie.

You really don't have anything to fear, except maybe your own mind.
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Until they gather up every single Gun in this country, legal or illegal I will have a Conceal and Carry (C&C) and I will carry where and when my self-assessment says proceed with caution.

"We Ban Guns" signs are an open invite to a nut case with a legal or illegal gun. They know they have free reign to proceed to kill without getting shot at least until someone arrives confront them. Police or private citizen. In most cases the "nut case" turns the gun on themselves when confronted. I know if I had a kid in school I would want any School Staff Member that qualifies to Conceal and Carry so the confrontation is quick, thus less innocent lives are lost.

People who are anti-gun really don't understand the foundation of the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment is your right to defend yourself and so the "people" can take back the Government if they over step their bounds.

Obama has been any Gun Shops best salesman. Ammo is out on back order in most Stores. Guns are being purchased at a rate higher than any other time in US history. I think that alone says what American think about Gun Control.

If Guns kill people then Pencils misspell words.

We need to re-instate the Death Penalty, deal more harshly with the Gangs and hold ourselves more accountable for our actions.

I would be at the picnic next Saturday but I am going to be practicing/training with my Guns. An obligation I have as a legal C&C Card holder in Minnesota.

God Bless the good "old" USA and God help the "new" USA!

We need to re-instate the Death Penalty, deal more harshly with the Gangs and hold ourselves more accountable for our actions.

I would be at the picinic next Saturday but I am going to be practicing/training with my Guns. An obligation I have as a legal C&C Card holder in Minnesota.

God Bless the good "old" USA and God help the "new" USA!
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Think for a minute, if you were going to carry out a crime, would you do it where there are plenty of armed people around????? Or would you pick an easier target where NO ONE is armed!
Open Carry parties are the SAFEST places on earth! If you BAN guns on your property, the evil doers will know where to go! THINK!
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America the Great wrote:
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The number one reason why you feel the way you do is because you, like a lot of people, misinterrept the Second Amendment, which actually says, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The concept of a universal militia originated in England which subjected men to keep and bear arms for military duty since the 12th century. Even then, King Henry III, limited the right to bear arms to certain subjects between the ages of fifteen and fifty (including non-land-owning subjects) to bear arms because England did not have a regular army and police force (which was not established until 1829). Every subject had an obligation to protect the king’s peace and assist in the suppression of riots, mostly against the king, himself.
Wisconsin, today, has a police force and a regular army, and does not subject itself to any king; hence, the Second Amendment, as it stands today, is out-dated. People, like you still support the "right to bear arms" because you like to shoot animals for sport and for the hail of it, its a great conversation piece in rural areas--prestige--, and it gives you a sense of superiority over undesirable people; people that you'd rather suspect of malicious activity, notably Hmong and Spanish people who have begun to settle in Wisconsin, instead of doing the more appropriate neighborly thing, like inviting their family over your house for dinner and a stogie.
You really don't have anything to fear, except maybe your own mind.
I hate to break it to you, but NSZ stopped reading half way through your first paragraph. I do applaud your efforts - well said.
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Curious wrote:
How long will it take for them to shoot each other? Hopefully, not long.
See post #4. It seems to be about a year....
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Fed up wrote:
Until they gather up every single Gun in this country, legal or illegal I will have a Conceal and Carry (C&C) and I will carry where and when my self-assessment says proceed with caution.
Including your gun? It must be hard to go through life seeing everything and everyone as a perceived threat. I feel sorry for you.
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America the Great wrote:
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The number one reason why you feel the way you do is because you, like a lot of people, misinterrept the Second Amendment, which actually says, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The concept of a universal militia originated in England which subjected men to keep and bear arms for military duty since the 12th century. Even then, King Henry III, limited the right to bear arms to certain subjects between the ages of fifteen and fifty (including non-land-owning subjects) to bear arms because England did not have a regular army and police force (which was not established until 1829). Every subject had an obligation to protect the king’s peace and assist in the suppression of riots, mostly against the king, himself.
Wisconsin, today, has a police force and a regular army, and does not subject itself to any king; hence, the Second Amendment, as it stands today, is out-dated. People, like you still support the "right to bear arms" because you like to shoot animals for sport and for the hail of it, its a great conversation piece in rural areas--prestige--, and it gives you a sense of superiority over undesirable people; people that you'd rather suspect of malicious activity, notably Hmong and Spanish people who have begun to settle in Wisconsin, instead of doing the more appropriate neighborly thing, like inviting their family over your house for dinner and a stogie.
You really don't have anything to fear, except maybe your own mind.
So another depend on the government type person. And yes I like shooting animals for fun....It's called hunting. So remember when seconds count and cops are minutes I will live you on the other hand are dead. I care for my family more than trusting the cops to get there if a home intruder comes in. And last when I go to sleep I don't fear, I have my trusty 45 cal with crimson trace laser grips next to me. What do you have.....a phone. Ouch!
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America the Great wrote:
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Wisconsin, today, has a police force and a regular army, and does not subject itself to any king; hence, the Second Amendment, as it stands today, is out-dated.
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The Right to Bear Arms reads like it does for OUR protection, NOT the King OR the government. We, as citizens, must not depend on someone else (ie gov't) for our own protection because in doing so, we loose our freedom. We are also charged with the responsibility and duty to keep our government 'in check'. If you were a student of history, you would know there are countless books on the subject and many with differing views. You may be smart but you are certainly not educated to not even ackowledge the constant power struggle that has been going on for years.
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