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Oct 29, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

LAUSD plan to have outsiders run 36 of its schools nears reality

Full story: The Daily Breeze

Pushing aside the threat of lawsuits and complaints about the process, Los Angeles Unified officials today will begin finalizing a controversial reform plan that allows the outside operation of three dozen schools.

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Wilmington/Carson/San Pedro

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Oct 26, 2009
 

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In the article, "It is clear that the original spirit and intent of this resolution intended for charters to have the kinds of flexibility and autonomies they need to be successful with students," said Jed Wallace, president of the California Charter School Association. "

In the article," ..Cortines requires applicants to have nonprofit status, as well as the financial capability and skills to successfully operate a school"

Did the charter operators think they were going to get a public school for free to run as they please and not have some standards to meet?
M Richards

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Oct 26, 2009
 
It seems to me that if up to 36 campuses need to be given up by LAUSD, then it proves that LAUSD is too large and unable to be a successful District.

Might this be just the first 36 of potentially many more campuses being thrown away by such a mismanaged District?

What about South Region High School #15? Will it still be a campus associated with the failing San Pedro High School, being considered for takeover?

Let's build a $108 Million Dollar campus and then just hand it off to others. Perhaps that may just be the best thing for students attending the new site.

The standards for graduating for LAUSD high schools these days don't seem all that high in the first place.

Maybe LAUSD will tell the operators running the 36 sites to do as they say and not as they do.

Something must be done to get more students properly educated so they can wait in unemployment lines for jobs that went overseas.

How many times does the refrain about the need for LAUSD to be broken up needs to be spoken before the Board of Education finally gets the message?
Missourian

Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

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Oct 27, 2009
 
Not sure I understand this. If there isn't a substantial downsizing planned for the current administrators (LAUSD), how is putting more people on the payroll going to solve our budget problems. Far as I know all these salaries are paid from the same place in the end, our pockets.
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Oct 27, 2009
 
M Richards wrote:
It seems to me that if up to 36 campuses need to be given up by LAUSD, then it proves that LAUSD is too large and unable to be a successful District.
Might this be just the first 36 of potentially many more campuses being thrown away by such a mismanaged District?
What about South Region High School #15? Will it still be a campus associated with the failing San Pedro High School, being considered for takeover?
Let's build a $108 Million Dollar campus and then just hand it off to others. Perhaps that may just be the best thing for students attending the new site.
The standards for graduating for LAUSD high schools these days don't seem all that high in the first place.
Maybe LAUSD will tell the operators running the 36 sites to do as they say and not as they do.
Something must be done to get more students properly educated so they can wait in unemployment lines for jobs that went overseas.
How many times does the refrain about the need for LAUSD to be broken up needs to be spoken before the Board of Education finally gets the message?
You are all over the map in your comments.
The admission by the board that they cannot handle the education/reforms necessary by allowing charters to take control should be enough for you. Efforts to break up the district and the city seem doomed to failure, so the idea that enthisiatic ousiders might be able to make the changes you seek should satisfy those, like yourself, who are heavily pessimistic about all the board does. Give thisplan a chance before moaning that it doesn't work, willya?
Heiny Hoyer

Los Angeles, CA

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Oct 27, 2009
 
Nice to see that LAUSD gives away "publicly-financed" entities to privately-run companies. But as grandma once said, "Be careful what you ask for, it could be worse!"
God bless those people who have LAUSD to educate their children. Boy are they being short-changed!
Somebody needs to SLAY the "seven-headed" dragon!!
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Oct 27, 2009
 
Heiny Hoyer wrote:
Nice to see that LAUSD gives away "publicly-financed" entities to privately-run companies. But as grandma once said, "Be careful what you ask for, it could be worse!"
God bless those people who have LAUSD to educate their children. Boy are they being short-changed!
Somebody needs to SLAY the "seven-headed" dragon!!
Worse then LAUSD???? Man, that is hard to visualize! I think the people taking over these schools are in a no-lose situation. They can't do worse then LAUSD. It ain't possible! If they wind up burning the schools to the ground they will STILL be doing better than LAUSD
green splat

Los Angeles, CA

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Oct 27, 2009
 
good luck to the private schools who assume san pedro and gardena high because they will need it to recoup their losses when it becomes obvious you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
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Oct 27, 2009
 
green splat wrote:
good luck to the private schools who assume san pedro and gardena high because they will need it to recoup their losses when it becomes obvious you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
Again, can't do worse. Not possible. If they just herd the students into a vacant field and let them run around aimlessly it will be better than the LAUSD.
Local Yokel

Los Angeles, CA

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Oct 27, 2009
 
Missourian wrote:
Not sure I understand this. If there isn't a substantial downsizing planned for the current administrators (LAUSD), how is putting more people on the payroll going to solve our budget problems. Far as I know all these salaries are paid from the same place in the end, our pockets.
Exactly, how is having more people running the schools going to put fewer kids in each classroom. More administrators equals less efficiency.
Fact or Fiction

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Connie Llanos writes: Locally, Gardena and San Pedro high schools - two of the lowest-performing schools in the South Bay and Harbor Area - are targeted for takeover by outsiders.

What data did she look at to determine that San Pedro High School is the lowest performing school? In LAUSD, in Local District 8, San Pedro High School is THE highest performing school!

Get the facts straight!!
M Richards

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Oct 27, 2009
 
LAUSD Parent wrote:
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You are all over the map in your comments.
The admission by the board that they cannot handle the education/reforms necessary by allowing charters to take control should be enough for you. Efforts to break up the district and the city seem doomed to failure, so the idea that enthisiatic ousiders might be able to make the changes you seek should satisfy those, like yourself, who are heavily pessimistic about all the board does. Give thisplan a chance before moaning that it doesn't work, willya?
I don't remember writing about breaking up any city.

What we have seen for some time is the increasing failures to provide a good education to all of the students in a District many of us find to large to succeed.

Perhaps outsiders may come in and try to improve things, but that might just create another bureaucracy within LAUSD and their associations with the outsiders. That means more administration in a too large District and less money going to the classroom and the students.

Right now it seems that Districts believes it is too large to fail when we are all seeing that with at least 36 sites, the District is failing badly. Should we wait and see if this new thing goes through while we watch more schools head towards failure or do we work hard, right now to break up the District into eight individual Districts that will promise more local control and local committment to all schools in all Districts?

Shouldn't we all be fed up with all the money our taxes have paid and the test results and graduation percentages we have seen lately?

This may be just another bureaucratic trick to keep them in jobs longer before another entity steps in and takes over LAUSD or the State of California steps in and THAT is something that should scare the heck out of all of us.

The Governator running L.A. Schools? Parish the thought.
pedro forever

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Oct 27, 2009
 
Fact or Fiction wrote:
Connie Llanos writes: Locally, Gardena and San Pedro high schools - two of the lowest-performing schools in the South Bay and Harbor Area - are targeted for takeover by outsiders.
What data did she look at to determine that San Pedro High School is the lowest performing school? In LAUSD, in Local District 8, San Pedro High School is THE highest performing school!
Get the facts straight!!
Maybe the Breeze needs to go to SPHS and take some notes for their next article...talk to people and get some factual information. Have you ever noticed that only the negativity of SPHS gets publicized in the Breeze? Maybe they'll be at the school tomorrow, when the EL students are having their reclassification ceremony....or maybe not, that is something positive.
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Oct 28, 2009
 
M Richards wrote:
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I don't remember writing about breaking up any city.
What we have seen for some time is the increasing failures to provide a good education to all of the students in a District many of us find to large to succeed.
Perhaps outsiders may come in and try to improve things, but that might just create another bureaucracy within LAUSD and their associations with the outsiders. That means more administration in a too large District and less money going to the classroom and the students.Right now it seems that Districts believes it is too large to fail when we are all seeing that with at least 36 sites, the District is failing badly. Should we wait and see if this new thing goes through while we watch more schools head towards failure or do we work hard, right now to break up the District into eight individual Districts that will promise more local control and local committment to all schools in all Districts?
Shouldn't we all be fed up with all the money our taxes have paid and the test results and graduation percentages we have seen lately?
This may be just another bureaucratic trick to keep them in jobs longer before another entity steps in and takes over LAUSD or the State of California steps in and THAT is something that should scare the heck out of all of us.
The Governator running L.A. Schools? Parish the thought.
Pessimism on pessimism. There is little you offer except the idea to break up the district. This has been tried and has never been succesful. The Charter idea is a new way to handle the problem and untill it is deemed not to work it seems prudent to withhold judgement. Try to be more positive. Tske heart in the fact that the board has ADMITTED THEY CANNOT MANAGE THE SYSTEM AS PRESENTLY CONSTITUTED. The admission of a problem is the first step to making real change.
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Oct 28, 2009
 
pedro forever wrote:
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Maybe the Breeze needs to go to SPHS and take some notes for their next article...talk to people and get some factual information. Have you ever noticed that only the negativity of SPHS gets publicized in the Breeze? Maybe they'll be at the school tomorrow, when the EL students are having their reclassification ceremony....or maybe not, that is something positive.
I am almost afraid to ask: what is a "reclassification ceremony"?
Jennifer

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To Vic - about "reclassification ceremonies" - this is a celebration for English Learner (EL) students who have been reclassified as proficient in the English Language. They no longer need to attend additional and/or targeted classes for kids learning English. They are reclassified because of 1) their score on the California English Language Development Test, 2)a score basic or above in English language arts on the California
Standards Test, and 3) recommendation from the school to reclassify.

Reclassification is really important - the sooner a student reclassifies, the more likely they are to graduate, to take AP classes in high school, to have higher achievement, etc.
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Jennifer wrote:
To Vic - about "reclassification ceremonies" - this is a celebration for English Learner (EL) students who have been reclassified as proficient in the English Language. They no longer need to attend additional and/or targeted classes for kids learning English. They are reclassified because of 1) their score on the California English Language Development Test, 2)a score basic or above in English language arts on the California
Standards Test, and 3) recommendation from the school to reclassify.
Reclassification is really important - the sooner a student reclassifies, the more likely they are to graduate, to take AP classes in high school, to have higher achievement, etc.
Imho there are few things more difficult then learning a second language. I am barely speak English and I was born in this country. I lived in Turkey for two years. Turkish is a made up language that is only about 90 years old. It was designed to be dead easy to learn. In two years I mastered about ten words. My hat is off to these kids and I hope they enjoy their ceremony. I have the feeling they worked very hard to achieve this.
Letting People Know

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Here is how you fix San Pedro High School:

1) Stop bussing in students. The city of San Pedro does not want the rejects from other schools, or their magnet students. We have enough of both in San Pedro, so Jefferson, Washington, Crenshaw and so forth keep the loser thugs and gang bangers out

2 ) San Pedro, Wilmington, Lomita and Harbor City should be their own district. LAUSD is at least 5 times larger than Long Beach and Long Beach is leaps and bounds ahead of LAUSD.

3) Stricter penalties and enforcement of penalties for all violations. Kids are told they get a ticket if they fight, I have not seen this happen very often. Zero tolerance should mean zero tolerance. Kick these dead beats and dead weight to the curb.

4) San Pedro students get preferential treatment in class choice and all activities over those who live in other cities. This should give them the clue and tie it back into #1

5) Bring back more electives, especially those that involve technical areas such as auto shop, wood shop, etc. These are skills people should know and will keep the kids in school. When those electives left, the dropout rate increased.
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