Motorcyclists injured in Manchester Twp crash

I would guess that they were racing and slammed into the side of a car, OUCH!

Why you motorcylists willingly put your life in the hands of careless drivers is beyond me. I've been in two accidents that were 100% the fault of a careless driver that would have likely been fatal had I been on a motorcycle. Is it really worth it?

Hopefully they were wearing helmets. I see way to many motorcyclist out there with no helmets on. It can save you from a definate head injury. Sometimes not. Hope both of them come out of it ok.

Here's a few fun facts for you...

- Three-fourths of motorcycle accidents resulted from a collision with another vehicle (usually a passenger automobile).

- In two-thirds of these accidents, the driver of the other vehicle violated the motorcycle’s right-of-way, causing the accident.

- Most motorcycle accidents are caused by a motor vehicle making a left turn in front of an oncoming motorcycle.

- A typical motorcycle accident allows the motorcyclist less than two seconds to complete a collision avoiding action.

Have said that...it's usually people with the mentailty of wtf and Why that cause the accidents. You automatically blame the motorcycle rider and then resort the the "I never saw them defense".

I'll guarentee that those two bikes were riding a staggered formation with two seconds of spacing between the bikes. Grow a pair and learn to drive.

Bill wrote:

Here's a few fun facts for you...
- Three-fourths of motorcycle accidents resulted from a collision with another vehicle (usually a passenger automobile).
- In two-thirds of these accidents, the driver of the other vehicle violated the motorcycle’s right-of-way, causing the accident.
- Most motorcycle accidents are caused by a motor vehicle making a left turn in front of an oncoming motorcycle.
- A typical motorcycle accident allows the motorcyclist less than two seconds to complete a collision avoiding action.
Have said that...it's usually people with the mentailty of wtf and Why that cause the accidents. You automatically blame the motorcycle rider and then resort the the "I never saw them defense".
I'll guarentee that those two bikes were riding a staggered formation with two seconds of spacing between the bikes. Grow a pair and learn to drive.

I think the post above was trying to say the same thing in fewer words. Regardless motorcycles are dangerous and Yes usually the rider needs to worry more about his surroundings than himself. Although I do see these idiots doing wheelies and going to fast from time to time...The guy a year or two ago who was flying down S. Queen at nearly 100 mph and ran into a trailer pulling into George's Pizza (Left turn) and died.

wtf wrote:

I would guess that they were racing and slammed into the side of a car, OUCH!

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Please DO NOT make assumptions!!! You do not know what happened nor were you a witness to the accident. All i can suggest for you and others like you who assume with out knowing is ... open mouth, insert foot and swallow.

As for the Barrick family I hope and pray Bobby pulls through this.

I hope he pulls through as well. My thoughts are with jess and him...

Those who question why people ride and call us selfish and careless annoy the sh*t out of me. I agree that they are inherently dangerous since careless drivers don't always see you but isn't a bicycle just as dangerous then?!?

My belief is that as long as you have some fear of the bike and expect to be cut off you'll be much less likely to get into an accident. The times that I've crashed were because I became complacent and too comfortable. Oh and helmets in accidents over 13mph actually increase the severity of neck injuries.

So wearing a helmet in an accident where you are going over 13mph will increase your chances of a neck injury? Hey idiot... if you don't wear a helmit and hit HEAD first on the pavement you won't have to worry about a neck injury. But I think you have already been dropped on your head more than once in your life, haven't you??:) "The times that I have crashed here...."

Dmm wrote:

I hope he pulls through as well. My thoughts are with jess and him...
Those who question why people ride and call us selfish and careless annoy the sh*t out of me. I agree that they are inherently dangerous since careless drivers don't always see you but isn't a bicycle just as dangerous then?!?
My belief is that as long as you have some fear of the bike and expect to be cut off you'll be much less likely to get into an accident. The times that I've crashed were because I became complacent and too comfortable. Oh and helmets in accidents over 13mph actually increase the severity of neck injuries.

It would be really nice if people could only post nice comments on situations like this. Especially knowing most of the time family and friends will be reading the comments. If you don't have something nice to say keep it to yourself. I see idiots in cars every day doing stupid stuff and endangering other people. But atleast Bobby and his family have great friends and family to get them through this.

Simpson233 wrote:

So wearing a helmet in an accident where you are going over 13mph will increase your chances of a neck injury? Hey idiot... if you don't wear a helmit and hit HEAD first on the pavement you won't have to worry about a neck injury. But I think you have already been dropped on your head more than once in your life, haven't you??:) "The times that I have crashed here...."

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stating actual statistics and information doesn't make someone an idiot. Instead of spending your rime being rude how about learning the art of spell check!!!

Simpson233 wrote:

So wearing a helmet in an accident where you are going over 13mph will increase your chances of a neck injury? Hey idiot... if you don't wear a helmit and hit HEAD first on the pavement you won't have to worry about a neck injury. But I think you have already been dropped on your head more than once in your life, haven't you??:) "The times that I have crashed here...."
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Please....by all means, read the DOT and Snell research reports, then comeback and comment on helmets issues, use and safety. Until then, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

BlackCloud wrote:

<quoted text>I think the post above was trying to say the same thing in fewer words. Regardless motorcycles are dangerous and Yes usually the rider needs to worry more about his surroundings than himself. Although I do see these idiots doing wheelies and going to fast from time to time...The guy a year or two ago who was flying down S. Queen at nearly 100 mph and ran into a trailer pulling into George's Pizza (Left turn) and died.

Yeah, I see those idiots also, a lot of times on Rt 30. You see them moreoften in the early summer when they first get their bike. I get the plate number and call the cops. Oh yeah, almost forgot, I ride also.

Having said that, sit in front of your house one evening, count out 25 consecutive cars or trucks that pass by. Out of those 25, how many were actually NOT going over the speed limit? How many of those were NOT on cell phones? How many of those signaled properly when switch lanes? How many of those had their seat belts on and how many of those were NOT blasting over bassed stereos?

Now count the bikes and let me know how many were speeding (not many), were talking on cell phones (none), did not signal properly (not many), were not wearing helmets (about half) and had loud pipes (most).

Bill wrote:

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Yeah, I see those idiots also, a lot of times on Rt 30. You see them moreoften in the early summer when they first get their bike. I get the plate number and call the cops. Oh yeah, almost forgot, I ride also.
Having said that, sit in front of your house one evening, count out 25 consecutive cars or trucks that pass by. Out of those 25, how many were actually NOT going over the speed limit? How many of those were NOT on cell phones? How many of those signaled properly when switch lanes? How many of those had their seat belts on and how many of those were NOT blasting over bassed stereos?
Now count the bikes and let me know how many were speeding (not many), were talking on cell phones (none), did not signal properly (not many), were not wearing helmets (about half) and had loud pipes (most).

You're correct. So why would you want to put your unprotected body in the line of fire of these careless drivers. Darwinism at work, I suspect.

I absolutely detest bikers with loud pipes. I don't know why you feel your personal enjoyment of life outweighs those around you. I dance a little jig every time one of you dumba$$es cashes in.

Dmm wrote:

Oh and helmets in accidents over 13mph actually increase the severity of neck injuries.

Really.
Care to cite your source?

Best wishes to all the victims involved.
Pay attention out there.

Here's a little info for the Darwin wannabes-http://www.msf-usa.or g/imsc/proceedings/b-Ouellet-E stimatingHelmetEffectiveness.p df

Bill wrote:

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You're correct. So why would you want to put your unprotected body in the line of fire of these careless drivers. Darwinism at work, I suspect.
I absolutely detest bikers with loud pipes. I don't know why you feel your personal enjoyment of life outweighs those around you. I dance a little jig every time one of you dumba$$es cashes in.

We ride because we enjoy it, we are by law entitled to the highway just as much as any other vehicle despite what you may wish. We are expected to follow the rules of the road just as any other vehicle, the problem is that self centered people like yourself have the mentailty that "They'll move, I'm bigger than they are". And when you misjudge, well something like this happens. And why? because you want to get home and watch Dancing With The Stars? We know you watch it. A lot of riders put the loud pipes on because drivers not looking for motorcycles. Unfortunatly those riders fail to undterstand the laws of physics and the sound will only be heard by those beside or behind them, and to a very limited degee, those ahead of them. But not enough to make a difference. Thats why I keep my stock pipes, I want to hear the cars around me. Because people like you enjoy it when something bad happens to a rider is exactly why many riders carry.

I think motorcycles are cool and I really like them, I just don't care to ride one because by the very nature of them they are dangerous...also I thought those loud pipes were just people being dicks but some one told me recently that it serves as a warning for cars to let them know they are nearby.

I was there when this accident happened, and my family's prayer's go out to everyone involved, riders and driver alike. And yes everyone was wearing their helmet, no we were not speeding. For the record not everyone that has a sport's bike feels the need to race everywhere we go, some of us just like riding..plain and simple!

I'd like to thank the off duty police officer and his wife who was a nurse who were at the scene within minutes. I'd like to thank the gentlemen who stayed with Bobby and Ron when they were down. And i'd like to thank the ambulance and rescue workers and police officers who responded so fast.

Thankful wrote:

I was there when this accident happened, and my family's prayer's go out to everyone involved, riders and driver alike. And yes everyone was wearing their helmet, no we were not speeding. For the record not everyone that has a sport's bike feels the need to race everywhere we go, some of us just like riding..plain and simple!
I'd like to thank the off duty police officer and his wife who was a nurse who were at the scene within minutes. I'd like to thank the gentlemen who stayed with Bobby and Ron when they were down. And i'd like to thank the ambulance and rescue workers and police officers who responded so fast.

It sounds like you riding with them as part of the group? As a rider myself, I have to ask, is this a case of the car turning left in front of the bikes?

I appologize, not a study by DMV. Here is my source.
http://www.uvm.edu/~vlrs/Safety/HelmetLaws.pd...
While you may not sustain a fatal head injury you will probably have a broken neck.

Rider wrote:

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Really.
Care to cite your source?
Best wishes to all the victims involved.
Pay attention out there.
Here's a little info for the Darwin wannabes-http://www.msf-usa.or g/imsc/proceedings/b-Ouellet-E stimatingHelmetEffectiveness.p df

Dmm wrote:

I appologize, not a study by DMV. Here is my source.
http://www.uvm.edu/~vlrs/Safety/HelmetLaws.pd...
While you may not sustain a fatal head injury you will probably have a broken neck.
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It's not a complete study and whats worse is that it is bassed off of other incomplete studies. The study does not take into consideration the style of helmet. A full faced helmet provides the fullest protection but is also the heaviest. This is where the THEORY of neck injury comes into play. The only reports that matter are DOT and Snell. Read them before posting. Somebody here might make a wrong decision about wearing a helmet based on something you typed.