Permit Issued for 2nd New Battery at Clairton Coke Works

sameoldsameold wrote:

<quoted text>Once again - why all the insults and criticism of INDIVIDUALS to prove your point? You are angry with the way a company has done business. You are angry because you feel you have a good proposal for new industry and it apparently has fallen on deaf ears. How is that the fault of the labor force at US Steel? Why do you generalize and group everyone together for something that the higher up corporate executives and politicians control? You have made "general" suggestions on here, but nothing in depth that anyone would have the option to agree or disagree with. You must understand, this didn't happen overnight. We are not going to go to bed one night and wake up with new industry, jobs and clean air for the entire Mon Valley the next morning. Wheels of progress turn very slowly. So, in the meantime, why all the insults? I think that is where people have lost respect for you and your comments and why there are some people who attack what you say.

C town gal wrote:

<quoted text> Barring a terrorist act, no one is going to BLOW UP the works.(I should watch saying that or the Lilliputian Brain people, you know who you are, will accuse me of supporting terrorism.) The answer is putting presure on the politicians to do their job and answer to the people that elect them (novel idea isn't it) they are the ones that will shut down the coke works. Keep the pressure on Dan Ornorato, and the Allegheny County Health Department.

Rasputin wrote:

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It was the USW with their opposition to new technology that assured the success of foreign competitors on the one hand and the unacceptable environmental damage on the other. You are right when you say things don't happen overnight. Their idioticc fanatsies about "job killers" and "conspiracies to break the union" have been allowed to stand for thirty years.
WHAT ARE THE RESULTS?
A steel industry that is no longer competitive or even viable. One that is pathetically dependent on the government for life support and has become nothing but a gigantic ripoff for the American taxpayer. The MonValley, so rich in potential for alternative industries based on coal is kept locked down and new industry locked out so that this old dump can continue toperate outside government regulations AND industry standards.
THEY CAN'T EVEN MEET THEIR OWN SPECS!!!
All their unfulfilled promises about upgrades notwithstanding, US Steel has opted for a program of asset depreciation and breakdown maintenance -- run it until it breaks and hope you get lucky.
The results? High maintenance and operate costs, even greater dependence on government, an atrocious environmental and safety record, the black lung and an occasional dead body.
Yet even now thirty years after the fact the USW can't admit they got it all wrong. The "jon killers" are their opposition to progress, competition and free trade. The only REAL conspiracy is the union itself.
As for their "matters of principle" it seems that in order for them to enjoy the best of all world others must endure the worst.
So that they can make believe that this is a REAL company, that they have real jobs and can "live some place nice. Meanwhile others pay the price for them, bare the burden, make ALL the sacrafices and get stuck with the check.

sameoldsameold wrote:

<quoted text>If you are angry with the people at the top, you are entitled to your opinion. That is the way we do things in this country and we must all respect one another for that. But, from what I read between the lines, you are angry with how things are run but your argument isn't really with the people who work there. Unfortunately, for some, that is all they know. Until something better comes along, they all aren't just going to quit their jobs. They aren't bums - they are people trying to make a living. They can't help it the way things have been run. So, on that note, you need to lighten up. But, sincerely, what do you really feel you can accomplish on here? Because you have been making the same point for a very long time and it doesn't seem like this avenue is getting you the results you want.

9th and Ohio wrote:

Rasputin,
Again, put your business plan together, raise hundreds of millions of dollars and show us how it's done.

Rasputin wrote:

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Several option have been presented by myself and others. This town can rebuild itself if they so desire. Getting rid of the old dump is an essential precondition -- that also gets rid of those overpaid bums once and for all.
THEN recovery can go forward -- with modern cola-based industries and a better class of people. Those bums have been ripping of the MonValley and the US taxpayer far too long.

C town gal wrote:

<quoted text> In reference to your "overpaid bums" comment, there was an article in Fortune Magazine today. It stated that productivity in poor countries is being pushed up due to fast development, cheap capital, more efficient shipping and cheap global communication. This article suggests that the current recession and increasing huge trade deficits indicate that Americans in the manufacturing sector are over paid. There needs to be at least a 20 percent pay cut to these Americans for their companies to remain competitive in the global market or unemployment will continue to rise. How do the Union reps bargain for constantly higher wages and benefits when they are already in a shrinking market. USS is on a death march. It is true, they have created their OWN demise.

Rasputin wrote:

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They are also the one who by their resistance to technological change and improvement brought about the reliance on obsolete equipment, breakdown maintenance and the policy asset depreciation. That is one of the main reasons that we only get PROMISES for upgrades.
Most of the equipment in that old dump belongs on the scrap heap and in any other industry would have been years ago. These old dumps are being kept alive on government life support so that these bums can continue to "live some place nice", make believe that they have real jobs and that their work deserves respect --
when in fact it is just a ripoff of the American people and a lockdown on the MonValley.
Some others on this post may find this insulting, but.....
if it behaves like a bum, sounds like a bum and looks like a bum...
GEE MAYBE IT IS A BUM!

sameoldsameold wrote:

<quoted text>Putting all of the litany of insults aside - what do you intend to accomplish on this forum? That is a simple direct straightforward question.

9th and Ohio wrote:

Rasputin - step up and lead the charge!
You need to get out there and convince people to fund your cause.

C town gal wrote:

<quoted text> In reference to your "overpaid bums" comment, there was an article in Fortune Magazine today. It stated that productivity in poor countries is being pushed up due to fast development, cheap capital, more efficient shipping and cheap global communication. This article suggests that the current recession and increasing huge trade deficits indicate that Americans in the manufacturing sector are over paid. There needs to be at least a 20 percent pay cut to these Americans for their companies to remain competitive in the global market or unemployment will continue to rise. How do the Union reps bargain for constantly higher wages and benefits when they are already in a shrinking market. USS is on a death march. It is true, they have created their OWN demise.

Future Ex Glassporter wrote:

Shut down Clairton Coke Works !!! Shut it down!!!
Now everyone !!!!
That place is as outdated as Unions are today !

Rasputin wrote:

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Give it up. They won't listen,

C town gal wrote:

<quoted text>You have noticed that the people that live in the "hot zone" (Glassport, Clairton) hate the mill and all others that think it is just such a wonderful place don't live any where near the mill.