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Canton, CT

Jul 1, 2008

Some May Leave Maple Ave. Historic District In Canton

Once upon a time, Maple Avenue in Canton was a picturesque street whose antique characteristics matched those of the rest of the Collinsville historic district.

But over time, the avenue's quintessential historic feel has waned. Small businesses have taken root, starting on both ends of the residential avenue and slowly making their way toward the middle.

But the main problem, residents say, is the street's proximity to Route 44 and its easy access as a cut-through road from Route 179, a situation that has increased high-speed commercial and commuter traffic.

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Hmmm .. isn't Leff the Leff of past DEP association? Thus, why should we expect anything other than mediocre, looks good on the surface performance?

That nutjob aside, Collinsville is a victim of Canton's insatiable appetite for development. What a nice little town, with its giant mall, blighted commercial strip, mindless soccer moms, and subdivision-filled hills.

Ah, progress. Ain't it sweet?
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Jul 1, 2008
 
There has always been heavy traffic on Maple Ave. Collinsville just happens to be on the way to routes 4, 8 or 202 & 44. The tremendous development all around it (Harwinton, Burlington, Canton, New Hartford Avon) increased the traffic, and then the &*$#@ trail & tourists slowed the traffic down. Cville used to be the best kept secret of the Valley. Cheap, quiet and pretty. Not anymore, but the disgruntled can find comfort in their asking prices when they move.
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Jul 1, 2008
 
I would have much rather seen the town turn the Canton Golf Course into a park rather than an outside mall. The Avon shopping area is right over the hill. It just didn't make sense to me.
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Hmmm .. isn't Leff the Leff of past DEP association? Thus, why should we expect anything other than mediocre, looks good on the surface performance?
That nutjob aside, Collinsville is a victim of Canton's insatiable appetite for development. What a nice little town, with its giant mall, blighted commercial strip, mindless soccer moms, and subdivision-filled hills.
Ah, progress. Ain't it sweet?
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Farmington Council was too busy buying a pricy building lot on leafy Mt. Spring Road, the NASCAR bypass, to protect the bobcat and the very nicest neighbors, to notice the proliferation of signs - commercial, political, fundraisers, carpet cleaners, and even pink flAMINGOS - throughout its historic district. This spreading blot degrades the historic village district. Why so? Fton has no enforcement/standards.Wha? Enjoy?!!the look at the huge For Sale Signs across from abandoned Parsons dealership.See all the Brickwalk clutter. Welcome to the historic village!
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I would have much rather seen the town turn the Canton Golf Course into a park rather than an outside mall. The Avon shopping area is right over the hill. It just didn't make sense to me.
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Get the facts. the golf course was owned by the Lowell Brothers and they choose to sell it because it was their right to do what they wanted with their property.
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Good luck to the good residents of Maple Avenue. I had a heck of a time trying to sell my Maple Avenue property 6 years ago, and tried to get a zoning change from residential to commercial based on the fact that I had commerical properties across the stree and to my left. I was shot down by zoning, and tried for years to sell. The traffic is horrendous and nothing is done about the speeders and the dangers to folks trying to get to the bike trail. Honestly, speeding is a problem all over Collinsville; coupled with the increase of foot and bicycle traffic, ia [dare I say it?] an accident waiting to happen.
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The traffic has not changed since we moved to Maple Avenue 15 years ago.There was an increase when the mountain closed.Big deal.Know what your buying before you buy
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long time resident wrote:
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Get the facts. the golf course was owned by the Lowell Brothers and they choose to sell it because it was their right to do what they wanted with their property.
That's not the whole truth. In the mid-1980s, the Lowells offered the golf course to the Town at a great price, and the short-sighted then-BOS deemed it too expensive without even putting it to a Town vote. The Town could indeed have preserved it as a golf course, which was the Lowells' original hope. It is unfortunate that just last week, the Zoning Board once again disregarded these legitimate concerns about traffic and safety and approved the Lowe's application. While Mr. Leff attended the meetings and spoke in opposition, where was everyone else from the Historic District? More residents need to follow Simsbury's lead and speak up at these meetings. It is obvious that the Zoning Board ignores the impact of irresponsible development, with no regard to the objectives contained in the Town's own plan of development.
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#11
Jul 1, 2008
 
Typical CT. It is all about the dollar and to heck with the taxpayer. No vision for the historic or for the homeowner. Just strip mall after strip mall after big box store after super stop and shop on and on. I swear that I live in Patterson, NJ and not CT.
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Jul 1, 2008
 
I dont see what the big deal is. I've lived in the area for 15 plus years and that road has always been busy. I am not sure when "Once upon a time, Maple Avenue in Canton was a picturesque street whose antique characteristics matched those of the rest of the Collinsville historic district." must have been well before my time
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Jul 1, 2008
 
I would like to know what Kathy Hooker has to say.She is a maple ave resident and on the zoning board.Her husband Larry Minichello was in charge of the pedestrian safety group that was put together.I don't believe the road can be altered due to it's scenic road designation.
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Jul 2, 2008
 
Collinsville Rsident wrote:
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That's not the whole truth. In the mid-1980s, the Lowells offered the golf course to the Town at a great price, and the short-sighted then-BOS deemed it too expensive without even putting it to a Town vote. The Town could indeed have preserved it as a golf course, which was the Lowells' original hope. It is unfortunate that just last week, the Zoning Board once again disregarded these legitimate concerns about traffic and safety and approved the Lowe's application. While Mr. Leff attended the meetings and spoke in opposition, where was everyone else from the Historic District? More residents need to follow Simsbury's lead and speak up at these meetings. It is obvious that the Zoning Board ignores the impact of irresponsible development, with no regard to the objectives contained in the Town's own plan of development.
Mr. Leff spoke in opposition to Lowe's, but where was First Selectman Dick Barlow? Why didn't he stand up and express his opinion on this project? Guess he doesn't care about the impact on the town, and in particular, the impact on Collinsville residents.
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Jul 2, 2008
 
Maple Ave is the service road to the East-West autobahn otherwise known as Rt 44.

This is what we call progress, we must have the same set of chain stores in every town, unfortunately the Maple Avenue residents and their lives are in the way...
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Jul 2, 2008
 
I've resided in Collinsville since 1980 and there has always been traffic on Maple Ave. Given, the newer developments have obviously increased that over the years, it's nothing new. It should not come as a surprise to those who have purchased property along it. I understand that the construction has given those a glimpse at what it would be like to live on a quieter street, however, if that's what they wanted maybe they should have reconsidered. If anything, with all the traffic and tourists(whether it be on foot, bike or car), our property value is increasing. If you can't take the heat....Collinsville is a wonderful little town and some of us are lucky enough to call it home.
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wondering why wrote:
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Mr. Leff spoke in opposition to Lowe's, but where was First Selectman Dick Barlow? Why didn't he stand up and express his opinion on this project? Guess he doesn't care about the impact on the town, and in particular, the impact on Collinsville residents.
Per the Town Charter, members of the Board of Selectmen are not allowed to advocate a position to the Zoning Board (and others). This is to maintain the independence of the respective Boards and avoid swaying the Zoning Board's decisions by the very people (the BOS) who appoint them. It would have been unethical for Dick Barlow to speak for or against the application. Despite the Charter, however, BOS member David Gilchrist spoke in favor of Lowe's at one of the hearings, but unlike many other towns, there's no ethics commission in Canton. That answers many questions about the goings-on in this town.
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Jul 2, 2008
 
Answer to Why wrote:
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Per the Town Charter, members of the Board of Selectmen are not allowed to advocate a position to the Zoning Board (and others). This is to maintain the independence of the respective Boards and avoid swaying the Zoning Board's decisions by the very people (the BOS) who appoint them. It would have been unethical for Dick Barlow to speak for or against the application. Despite the Charter, however, BOS member David Gilchrist spoke in favor of Lowe's at one of the hearings, but unlike many other towns, there's no ethics commission in Canton. That answers many questions about the goings-on in this town.
Dick Barlow could have spoken as a resident. Dave Gilchrist didn't speak as a board member, he spoke as a town resident and the charter doesn't prevent that.
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Jul 2, 2008
 
Pain in the Tukas wrote:
Good luck to the good residents of Maple Avenue. I had a heck of a time trying to sell my Maple Avenue property 6 years ago, and tried to get a zoning change from residential to commercial based on the fact that I had commerical properties across the stree and to my left. I was shot down by zoning, and tried for years to sell. The traffic is horrendous and nothing is done about the speeders and the dangers to folks trying to get to the bike trail. Honestly, speeding is a problem all over Collinsville; coupled with the increase of foot and bicycle traffic, ia [dare I say it?] an accident waiting to happen.
your right nothing is done about the speeding issue. This is because we have idiots on the board of selectman who think we have to many cops and do not want to fund any more. We only have two officers on at a time. I think we should have at least 4 patrolman at all times. But in order to do this we must hire several more officers. With more officers on we have more cars on the road and I would think they could station one to collinsville to help slow down the traffic. With two on it aint gonna happen.Wake up selectman and start protecting the residents of Canton.
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The traffic has not changed since we moved to Maple Avenue 15 years ago.There was an increase when the mountain closed.Big deal.Know what your buying before you buy
REALLY? Traffic has not changed in 15 years? Sorry, I just don't believe that.
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Pain in the Tukas wrote:
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REALLY? Traffic has not changed in 15 years? Sorry, I just don't believe that.
I've lived in Collinsville for twenty five years and the traffic has increased, not only on Maple Ave, but on Dyer, Gildersleeve, Simonds, Old Canton Road, etc. And the traffic is also the result of all the new subdivisions in Canton (Hoffman Farms, High Valley, Griswold, Oxbow Ridge, as well as new subdivisions in Burlington, Harwinton, New Hartford, etc.) There are just more people living in the valley than there were years ago. And Collinsville is so "cool" now, that people want to come and visit.
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Jul 2, 2008
 
Of course traffic has increased. When will the BOS do something about the pedestrian study that was done? Especially now during the summer months when there are kids biking and walking all over town, we need to address the Maple Ave crosswalk area by the bike trail, as well as ALL our residential streets. Unfortunately, our BOS are napping [or hoping to run for other office instead of working for the town who elected you - Mr. Legeyt??]
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