Changes to Oil Industry May Hurt Houston

Richard S wrote:

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This issue ws raised by YOUR governor. It is an idea worth pursuing. Of course, that would mean the end of any $$ assistance from the Feds.,- you know, when you have tornado damage or flood damages - not more $$ from us.
FEMA alone has dumped more than $3.5 BILLION into that cesspool of a state since 2001.
Yes - Texas should secede. ASAP.

Can't wait until you run out of heating oil for your east coast home, or can't afford it anymore because you have to buy it from the Arabs. Texas should secede, to get away from morons like you.

Pisz on this black turd! He needs flushed down the toilet like the piece of ScHIT he is!

SC Guy wrote:

<quoted text>Cap and trade only forces poluters to clean up their own mess, not taxpayers at large.

If they chose to continue to pollute, they can buy credits from non-polluters. But the smart business cleans up their act, and stockpiles pollution credits. They can in turn sell these credits at a profit to the low end of the corporate ladder.
Capitalism at work.

The carbon tax is not the same as polluting a stream it is a global issue. It does no good at all to cap carbon output in a selected group of people. If you reduce carbon in one place and the item then gets manufactured in another place because the first place is no longer competitive due the carbon tax the net effect on the carbon in the atmosphere is a big zero.

In the political climate of today I think it is fair to say you can't do anything which will be effective in reducing carbon output to an extent which will mitigate climate change. If you get China and India and the rest of the producers on board then you can talk about whether it would make a difference. Until then the only thing you can do with your carbon cap and trade is send jobs overseas and force citizens here to pay higher taxes. I don't see how loosing jobs and paying higher taxes just so you can say your not doing nothing which stop global warming.

Of course all this supposes that global warming is not a bunch of bs in the first place.

Glasnos wrote:

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Global warming is a socialist scam. You really have to be brain dead zombie to think man has a measureable impact on climate. You so called scietists were predicting huge hurricanes after Katrina ... and we have had nada... Instead, we hav record cold temperatures in various parts of the globe the last three years. Here in daytona, I have never seen such cool temperatures the last three years. Bring on the warming .... I'm ready...
How cold is it? Flint's 95-year-old record low falls as 19 below zero hits city
Wednesday January 14, 2009, 7:58 PM
Record cold shudders through Western Australia
Martin Palmer, Friday May 22, 2009 – 20:11 EST
Weatherzone
Saturday's high temp in Green Bay sets record for June 6 high temperature for the day, reached at 9:50 a.m., was 52. That set a record for the lowest high temperature for June 6, according to the National Weather Service office in Ashwaubenon.
Global warming? Only the liberal children could still hold on to that lie.

Do you by chance know of any other major movie, documentary, etc., that refutes in any intellectual way the "Global Warming Fallacy", as you put it?

The only people I know of that constantly refutes global warming are the right wing, oil companies and their high paid lobbyist's, so please enlighten me.

BTW - this country needs more "Energy" companies, not oil companies.

TonyT1961 wrote:

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Do you by chance know of any other major movie, documentary, etc., that refutes in any intellectual way the "Global Warming Fallacy", as you put it?
The only people I know of that constantly refutes global warming are the right wing, oil companies and their high paid lobbyist's, so please enlighten me.
BTW - this country needs more "Energy" companies, not oil companies.

I don't rely on phony documentaries for my information.
We have the leader of the free world tell us we have a crisis that is more threatening than muslim terrorism, and an energy crisis, and we are using too much fossil fuels ... and who then jumps on a jet to fly for a fun evening out?
Any reasonably intelligent person should be scratching their head. They are either lying or are the biggest hypocrit on earth.... and don't even get me started on Al Gore and his obscene energy consumption.

Glasnos wrote:

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I don't rely on phony documentaries for my information.
We have the leader of the free world tell us we have a crisis that is more threatening than muslim terrorism, and an energy crisis, and we are using too much fossil fuels ... and who then jumps on a jet to fly for a fun evening out?
Any reasonably intelligent person should be scratching their head. They are either lying or are the biggest hypocrit on earth.... and don't even get me started on Al Gore and his obscene energy consumption.

Guess that means you don't have any reputable claims as to the right wings self proclaimed fallacy of global warming.

But as usual, you hang on one small item, a night out with his wife, to refute the larger issue.

Shows what a small and uninformed mind, as well as desperate, you are.

TonyT1961 wrote:

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Guess that means you don't have any reputable claims as to the right wings self proclaimed fallacy of global warming.
But as usual, you hang on one small item, a night out with his wife, to refute the larger issue.
Shows what a small and uninformed mind, as well as desperate, you are.

Let's put it this way ... If someone tells you it is a gold watch, but willing to sell it for $100 ... A wise person realizes it is not what it appears.
Likewise ... when someone tells you we have a crisis, but then personally behaves as if there is no crisis ... then that person is likely lying ... and has a different agenda.
An intelligent person looks to what a person does ... not what he says.
So I would say you are either lying as Gore and Obama are lying ... or you are just plain naive or stupid... Which is it?

Glasnos wrote:

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Let's put it this way ... If someone tells you it is a gold watch, but willing to sell it for $100 ... A wise person realizes it is not what it appears.
Likewise ... when someone tells you we have a crisis, but then personally behaves as if there is no crisis ... then that person is likely lying ... and has a different agenda.
An intelligent person looks to what a person does ... not what he says.
So I would say you are either lying as Gore and Obama are lying ... or you are just plain naive or stupid... Which is it?

My last retort to your nonsense;

The president has spent more time consistently in scrtiny, unlike the previous administration. Does a person get a chance to spend time with his wife, if only for a night?

Bush spent 1/3rd of his prewsidency at his ranch - Cheney, almost 8 years in hiding, and this was when we we're enacting a pre-emptive war.

TonyT1961 wrote:

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My last retort to your nonsense;
The president has spent more time consistently in scrtiny, unlike the previous administration. Does a person get a chance to spend time with his wife, if only for a night?
Bush spent 1/3rd of his prewsidency at his ranch - Cheney, almost 8 years in hiding, and this was when we we're enacting a pre-emptive war.

I can only pray Oboma spends 1/3 of his term in Chicago ... but unlikely. He has a fetish for Air Force One ... and despite his rhetoric about global warming and disdain for fossil fuel useage Obama will binge on fossil fuel ... and pollute like a bean powered odorous boyscout troup ... all the while taxing the hell out of us.