Brother and sister killed north of Leggett

This is a terrible tragedy. All who were involved will be in my prayers.

The number of drivers who cross the centerline into on-coming traffic for no apparent reason keeps increasing locally.

Many innocent people have had their lives forever changed or permanently stopped because of this. Many of these drivers are young people who have been distracted and lost track of time for some reason.

I hope the Coroner's investigation will help us all understand what's causing this unfortunate and costly trend.

Linda Williams thank you for your informative and well written article.

Words cannot express the sorrow I feel for the family. Josh was a wonderful, outgoing, all around great guy, with a smile that lit up a room. I hold you all in my prayers. The world will be a sadder place without him!!! RIP JOSH...

It is so hard for me to have any pity on these selfish kids. Who passes on a double yellow in the first place? No seatbelts?? Another bonehead mistake. Sounds to me like big brother blatantly ignored all safety rules for the road. How lucky for the folks who he almost hit, they all could have been killed. Dumb is as dumb is.

this is a horrible tragedy ,but a preventable one also. my prayers go out to this family at this time and i hope and pray in the very near future others, young and old alike will learn a lesson from this. there is a reason to not pass on double lines! this area is very dangerous in itself without people thinking it's okay and they have it while doing something so completely foolish! i too am also glad no one else was killed or injured in this accident.

I think that any man over 30 years of age will, if he is honest with himself, admit that surviving some pivotal near death experience, brought on by his own carelessness but which he luckily survived, scared him enough to shape up. Those who won't admit it are already dead.

My epiphany came when I was 22 and training to be a commercial pilot. It still makes me red faced with shame to think about it, but I'll tell you anyway.

I lived on a small ranch in a canyon near Santa Barbara at the time. I had flown to San Diego to pick up 5 friends to attend a party we were having at there on a Friday night. Approaching Santa Barbara, I thought it would be a good idea to buzz the ranch to announce our return, and did - 3 times at over 250kts (above the speed limit for any plane flying below 10,000 feet, and almost at redline for the plane itself). We landed uneventfully and drove up to a group of cheering friends who said "Wow, that was amazing the way you flew under those power lines." I said "What power lines?". Sure enough, I was living about 300 feet under power cables which stretched between the 2 ridgelines forming the canyon. I had never noticed them even though I had lived there for 2 years.

I suspect that many of the derogatory posters here, and in other comment threads I have read, fall within that 20 to 30 age group, based both upon the immaturity of the comments and their poor command of the English Language. My advice to those is, don't wait until someone tells you that you flew under power lines before you decide to shape up.

Josh was one of the finest men I ever knew. Before he married, he devoted his life to helping others in faraway places like Nicaragua and Haiti. He constantly spoke of his love for his family, especially his younger sisters, for whom he felt very responsible after his father died. Tens of thousands of people he never met have clean, safe water because of his volunteer work. I worked with him in 2 separate years in Central America and never once saw him operate a drilling rig or any piece of heavy machinery in other than a totally safe and professional manner. That's more than I can say about myself when I was flying 5 other human beings on that night in 1980.

Driving? Well, he was in his 20's. For those of you posting these hateful and inconsiderate remarks, I truly hope you are as smart as you think you are; and I also hope that as you mature, you develop a little humility and compassion. If by chance you are overestimating yourselves, may this tragic incident inspire you think long and hard about the chances you take, both with your own lives and the lives of others.

Thomas H. Crozier
Granada, Nicaragua
Ventura, California

I think that any man over 30 years of age will, if he is honest with himself, admit that surviving some pivotal near death experience, brought on by his own carelessness but which he luckily survived, scared him enough to shape up. Those who won't admit it are already dead.

My epiphany came when I was 22 and training to be a commercial pilot. It still makes me red faced with shame to think about it, but I'll tell you anyway.

I lived on a small ranch in a canyon near Santa Barbara at the time. I had flown to San Diego to pick up 5 friends to attend a party we were having at there on a Friday night. Approaching Santa Barbara, I thought it would be a good idea to buzz the ranch to announce our return, and did - 3 times at over 250kts (above the speed limit for any plane flying below 10,000 feet, and almost at redline for the plane itself). We landed uneventfully and drove up to a group of cheering friends who said "Wow, that was amazing the way you flew under those power lines." I said "What power lines?". Sure enough, I was living about 300 feet under power cables which stretched between the 2 ridgelines forming the canyon. I had never noticed them even though I had lived there for 2 years.

I suspect that many of the derogatory posters here, and in other comment threads I have read, fall within that 20 to 30 age group, based both upon the immaturity of the comments and the poor command of the English Language. My advice to those is, don't wait until someone tells you that you flew under power lines before you decide to shape up.

Josh was one of the finest men I ever knew. Before he married, he devoted his life to helping others in faraway places like Nicaragua and Haiti. He constantly spoke of his love for his family, especially his younger sisters, for whom he felt very responsible after his father died. Tens of thousands of people he never met have clean, safe water because of his volunteer work. I worked with him in 2 separate years in Central America and never once saw him operate a drilling rig or any piece of heavy machinery in other than a totally safe and professional manner. That's more than I can say about myself when I was flying 5 other human beings on that night in 1980.

Driving? Well, he was in his 20's. For those of you posting these hateful and inconsiderate remarks, I truly hope you are as smart as you think you are; and I also hope that as you mature, you develop a little humility and compassion. If by chance you are overestimating yourselves, may this tragic incident inspire you think long and hard about the chances you take, both with your own lives and the lives of others.

Thomas H. Crozier
Granada, Nicaragua
Ventura, California

I think that any man over 30 years of age will, if he is honest with himself, admit that surviving some pivotal near death experience, brought on by his own carelessness but which he luckily survived, scared him enough to shape up. Those who won't admit it are already dead.

My epiphany came when I was 22 and training to be a commercial pilot. It still makes me red faced with shame to think about it, but I'll tell you anyway.

I lived on a small ranch in a canyon near Santa Barbara at the time. I had flown to San Diego to pick up 5 friends to attend a party we were having there on a Friday night. Approaching Santa Barbara, I thought it would be a good idea to buzz the ranch to announce our return, and did - 3 times at over 250kts (above the speed limit for any plane flying below 10,000 feet, and almost at redline for the plane itself). We landed uneventfully and drove up to a group of cheering friends who said "Wow, that was amazing the way you flew under those power lines." I said "What power lines?" Sure enough, I was living about 300 feet under power cables which stretched between the 2 ridgelines forming the canyon. I had never noticed them even though I had lived there for 2 years.

I suspect that many of the derogatory posters here, and in other comment threads I have read, fall within that 20 to 30 age group, based both upon the immaturity of the comments and the poor command of the English Language. My advice to them is, don't wait until someone tells you that you flew under power lines before you decide to shape up.

Josh was one of the finest men I ever knew. Before he married, he devoted his life to helping others in faraway places like Nicaragua and Haiti. He constantly spoke of his love for his family, especially his younger sisters, for whom he felt very responsible after his father died. Tens of thousands of people he never met have clean, safe water because of his volunteer work. I worked with him in 2 separate years in Central America and never once saw him operate a drilling rig or any piece of heavy machinery in other than a totally safe and professional manner. That's more than I can say about myself when I was flying 5 other human beings on that night in 1980.

Driving? Well, he was in his 20's. For those of you posting these hateful and inconsiderate remarks, I truly hope you are as smart as you think you are; and I also hope that as you mature, you develop a little humility and compassion. If by chance you are overestimating yourselves, may this tragic incident inspire you think long and hard about the chances you take, both with your own lives and the lives of others.

Thomas H. Crozier
Granada, Nicaragua
Ventura, California

Sorry for posting so many times, it seems like no matter which paper I send comments to, they end up here.

No matter, my point bears repeating.

Tom Crozier - Nicaragua wrote:

Sorry for posting so many times, it seems like no matter which paper I send comments to, they end up here.
No matter, my point bears repeating.

i agree with alot you say here. i'm sure though the innocent survivors that were lucky enough to not be killed in this accident are feeling bad for the two that are dead. although i know if it were myself or my family members that could have been killed by someone elses costly mistake and bad judgement, i would be very upset and i feel i would deserve to be very upset. don't take life for granted! you only live once and definitely don't take other peoples lives for granted! so your late for an appointment. life would have went on for these two, had this man not put himself, sister and other lives in danger.

Certainly they are angry. I'm angry. But the tone of these vitriolic posters carries with it the assumption that they themselves have never, and will never make such a mistake. I imagine this belief in their own infallibility extends to all of their friends, family, children, and grandchildren as well.

Given the large number of them, it is statistically certainty that, as a group, they are wrong. Many of them will one day suffer the painful consequences of their own poor judgment, and other innocent people will suffer along with them, guaranteed.

Therefore, any such comments only serve to inflict pain on a grieving family, which by itself is a heartless, unthinking, cruel, and intentional act. In my opinion, that malicious intent makes their actions far worse than anything Josh did. Josh made a grievous error; but he did not, as these posters have, intentionally set out to hurt anyone. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Tom Crozier - Nicaragua wrote:

Certainly they are angry. I'm angry. But the tone of these vitriolic posters carries with it the assumption that they themselves have never, and will never make such a mistake. I imagine this belief in their own infallibility extends to all of their friends, family, children, and grandchildren as well.
Given the large number of them, it is statistically certainty that, as a group, they are wrong. Many of them will one day suffer the painful consequences of their own poor judgment, and other innocent people will suffer along with them, guaranteed.
Therefore, any such comments only serve to inflict pain on a grieving family, which by itself is a heartless, unthinking, cruel, and intentional act. In my opinion, that malicious intent makes their actions far worse than anything Josh did. Josh made a grievous error; but he did not, as these posters have, intentionally set out to hurt anyone. They should be ashamed of themselves.

i totally agree with the ending of your post. let's just hope and pray this is an eye opener for alot of people to think before you act.

Tom Crozier - Nicaragua wrote:

I think that any man over 30 years of age will, if he is honest with himself, admit that surviving some pivotal near death experience, brought on by his own carelessness but which he luckily survived, scared him enough to shape up. Those who won't admit it are already dead.
My epiphany came when I was 22 and training to be a commercial pilot. It still makes me red faced with shame to think about it, but I'll tell you anyway.
I lived on a small ranch in a canyon near Santa Barbara at the time. I had flown to San Diego to pick up 5 friends to attend a party we were having there on a Friday night. Approaching Santa Barbara, I thought it would be a good idea to buzz the ranch to announce our return, and did - 3 times at over 250kts (above the speed limit for any plane flying below 10,000 feet, and almost at redline for the plane itself). We landed uneventfully and drove up to a group of cheering friends who said "Wow, that was amazing the way you flew under those power lines." I said "What power lines?" Sure enough, I was living about 300 feet under power cables which stretched between the 2 ridgelines forming the canyon. I had never noticed them even though I had lived there for 2 years.
I suspect that many of the derogatory posters here, and in other comment threads I have read, fall within that 20 to 30 age group, based both upon the immaturity of the comments and the poor command of the English Language. My advice to them is, don't wait until someone tells you that you flew under power lines before you decide to shape up.
Josh was one of the finest men I ever knew. Before he married, he devoted his life to helping others in faraway places like Nicaragua and Haiti. He constantly spoke of his love for his family, especially his younger sisters, for whom he felt very responsible after his father died. Tens of thousands of people he never met have clean, safe water because of his volunteer work. I worked with him in 2 separate years in Central America and never once saw him operate a drilling rig or any piece of heavy machinery in other than a totally safe and professional manner. That's more than I can say about myself when I was flying 5 other human beings on that night in 1980.
Driving? Well, he was in his 20's. For those of you posting these hateful and inconsiderate remarks, I truly hope you are as smart as you think you are; and I also hope that as you mature, you develop a little humility and compassion. If by chance you are overestimating yourselves, may this tragic incident inspire you think long and hard about the chances you take, both with your own lives and the lives of others.
Thomas H. Crozier
Granada, Nicaragua
Ventura, California

Josh and Chelsea have had one amazing memorial and will have one more next week in their home town. Many people like yourself shared memories of these two young people who already changed so many lives for the better at such a young age. We danced the night away in memory of the brother and sister that are gone to soon! We will never forget these wonderful people!

I wish I had been there, but the drive was just too far. If only I still had an airplane...

this hurts me so bad. iv known this girl since middle school and she is one that did not deserve to die. everyone says she did her job here, but i dont think that was all..she had so much to live for..and im never gonna get her smile out of my face...she was the happiest girl iv known..and i cant stop playing in my head how it happed, her face, her fear..its all so scary.any one of us..happy or depressed..can be wiped out in a blink.i just hope it makes people realize what can happen to any of us at any given moment

Tom Crozier - Nicaragua wrote:

Certainly they are angry. I'm angry. But the tone of these vitriolic posters carries with it the assumption that they themselves have never, and will never make such a mistake. I imagine this belief in their own infallibility extends to all of their friends, family, children, and grandchildren as well.
Given the large number of them, it is statistically certainty that, as a group, they are wrong. Many of them will one day suffer the painful consequences of their own poor judgment, and other innocent people will suffer along with them, guaranteed.
Therefore, any such comments only serve to inflict pain on a grieving family, which by itself is a heartless, unthinking, cruel, and intentional act. In my opinion, that malicious intent makes their actions far worse than anything Josh did. Josh made a grievous error; but he did not, as these posters have, intentionally set out to hurt anyone. They should be ashamed of themselves.

i have to say, i agree with everything u have said in your posts. it is so true that people look at other peoples costly mistakes and say "oh, how dumb. what where they thinkink?" when it could have just as easily been you. its always easier on the opposite side of the fence, huh?