2010 Buick LaCrosse CXS Beats Lexus

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CountryBoy4ever wrote:

If all of you so called "Americans" really hate this country that much, leave, get out, go and take your dictator with you. No one is making you stay and we won't miss you. Don't ruin it for the rest of us.

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CountryBoy4ever wrote:

If all of you so called "Americans" really hate this country that much, leave, get out, go and take your dictator with you. No one is making you stay and we won't miss you. Don't ruin it for the rest of us.

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JJFADS wrote:

Correct -
Now back on topic, GM continues to build great product for the Buick line.

2003emm3 wrote:

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You mean for the Opel line? The German car they are selling in the States as a Buick?:)
What are they going to do now that they are just a minority shareholder in Opel? If they want to continue selling re-badged Opels in the States as "American cars", they will have to pay royalties for that. no? That will get pretty expensive....

liner wrote:

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GM owns Opel. It has not been sold, nor do they pay royalties.

2003emm3 wrote:

If GM does keep Opel it will not win them any good points with Merkel's government. The board must be the biggest bunch of idiots on the planet, to piss off the government of a host country like this.
Second, if GM keeps Opel, it will result in more job losses in Germany, Belgium and the U.K., than if Magna and the Russians had bought them. They are already planning to shut 3 factories. I don't know if you speak any other languages beside English or, being a "true American", if that's all you can manage, but here is an article in the Frankfurter Allgemeine. In case you have not heard of it before, it is a good mainstream German daily.
http://www.faz.net/s/RubCE844206AD5543959580E...

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JJFADS wrote:

<quoted text>GM owns Opel, no need to speculate about “what ifs,” there is no choice in the matter. Recap, Opel is GM’s company and they have elected not to sell it and nothing can be done about it, end of discussion.

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Oh no my conservative friend. There WILL be discussion, lots of them. First of all, they will have to repay the bridge load they got from Merkel's government. Second, they will need several billion dollars in loans or investment to restructure Opel. The article in Frankfurter Allgemeine says GM is relying on teh German governmetn to supply the funding... Haha After they screw them, they plan to come with a hat asking for more money?
Did you read teh article, or are you going to wait until what they tell you on Faux News or Rush? Or at the local redneck bar in Shreveport?
What a classic back-stabbing American big-company move. First make a deal, get the host government to arrange funding, then f**k everybody over.

JJFADS wrote:

<quoted text>Irrelevant – they can discuss until the cows come home. It doesn’t change anything. At the end of the day GM owns ..hold on let me repeat that…. GM owns…oh man let me just make this clear one more time..GM owns Opel and no “discussions” will change that. Welcome to the real world. Let me give you some advice; don’t pit your life on the liberal Frankfurter Allgemeine. I am here to help you and mentor you, I mean that.

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JJFADS wrote:

Again, GM owns Opel, like it or not. You can “discuss” it all day.

Stop It wrote:

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but....
Isn't the German Government seriously ticked at GM for waffling on the Opel sales deal--especially since that same Govt. gave a ton of bailout money to GM to keep the place afloat?
(Oh sorry JJFADS---I just pointed out an embarrassing parallel that you repeatedly take issue with--namely offshore companies being given incentives in the US....guess what---US automakers evidently get similar breaks from other countries they do business in---wow!!)

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I believe you're correct. I haven't read anything further on it, but I would imagine the German govt will want that money paid back. And GM would be the one to pay it. And just where would they get that money?(((this is where all American taxpayers take a bow)))

JJFADS wrote:

<quoted text>Germans will give them even more money now, just as they were the Russians and Magna.